Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's

[Bucklerclan]

I wonder if there were any immigration laws in England in the 19th century and if the resulting documents were archived and might still be available for London?

My great Grandmother Maria Christina Stupakoff was German and spoke little English. For some strange reason she met and married my great grandfather Alfred Buckler who was a carpenter in London ( born Isle of Wight).

A note I have, with obscure origins, says Maria was born in Hamburg 8/1/1849 ( or 1/8/1849?) . Her family was certainly from Hamburg. My 3rd cousin who lives in Hamburg has found all of Maria's siblings listed in the Hamburg archives but can find no record of Maria.

Maria or Marie Christina was known as Mary Christine in London. She had a third name which I think was Wilhelmina.

She lived in London up to the 1st World War but, when war was declared in 1914 she was visiting her family in Hamburg and was forced to stay for the duration of the war incommunicado, until discovered by the Red Cross in 1918. She was eventually returned to London alive and well . I have no date for her marriage or death.

[Northern Lass]

Hi there welcome to the forum

going to just move this to the General Discussion section

[Bucklerclan]

Hi there welcome to the forum

going to just move this to the General Discussion section

My apologies. As I am a beginner I thought I had better start in the kindergarten

[Jimmy]

Marriages Jun 1873.
Buckler Alfred James. Southampton. 2c. 45.
Floyd Eileen Lavinia. Southampton. 2c. 45.
Floyd Ellen Lavinia. Southampton. 2c. 45.
Floyd Helen Lavinia. Southampton. 2c. 45.
REYNOLDS Alfred Henry. Southampton. 2c. 45.
Stupakoff Mary C F W. Southampton. 2c. 45.

[Jimmy]

1881.
Alfred BUCKLER. Head. M. Male. 34. Newport, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, Carpenter.
Mary BUCKLER. Wife. M. Female. 32. Hamburg, Germany Carpenter Wife.
Henry BUCKLER. Son. Male. 6. London Middlesex, London, Middlesex, Scholar.
Emma BUCKLER. Daur. Female. 4. London Middlesex, London, Middlesex, Scholar.
Arthur BUCKLER. Son. Male. 2. London Middlesex, London, Middlesex.
Baby BUCKLER. Daur. Female. 1 w. London Middlesex, London, Middlesex.

17 Lockhurst St.
London, Middlesex.

[Jimmy]

Basics.
1901. London.
Alfred Buckler. abt 1847.
Marie Buckler. abt 1849. Germany.
Henry Buckler. abt 1875.
Emma Buckler. abt 1877.
Louisa Buckler. abt 1881.
Alice Buckler. abt 1883.
Marie Buckler. abt 1885.

[Maths girl]

1891 85, Clifden Road, Hackney
BUCKLER, Alfred Head Married M 44 1847 Carpenter & Joiner Newport Isle of Wight
BUCKLER, Marie Wife Married F 42 1849 Germany
BUCKLER, Henry Son Single M 16 1875 Stone Boy In Restaurant Islington London
BUCKLER, Emma Daughter Single F 14 1877 Silk Embroiderer Hackney London
BUCKLER, Arthur Son Single M 12 1879 Scholar Hackney London
BUCKLER, Louisa Daughter Single F 10 1881 Scholar Hackney London
BUCKLER, Alice Daughter Single F 8 1883 Scholar Hackney London
BUCKLER, Frank Son Single M 6 1885 Scholar Hackney London

Anyone know what a Stone Boy In Restaurant is??

Full Details
1901 85, Clifden Road, Hackney
BUCKLER, Alfred Head Married M 54 1847 Carpenter I of W Newport Hampshire
BUCKLER, Marie Wife Married F 52 1849 Germany Brit Subject
BUCKLER, Henry Son Single M 26 1875 Boot Clicker Islington London
BUCKLER, Emma Daughter Single F 24 1877 Dressmaker Hackney London
BUCKLER, Louisa Daughter Single F 20 1881 Shoe Bow Maker Hackney London
BUCKLER, A lice Daughter Single F 18 1883 Pupil Teacher Hackney London
BUCKLER, Frank Son Single M 16 1885 Hackney London

1911 18 Newick Road Lower Clapton
BUCKLER, Mary Head Widow F 62 1849 Germany Resident
BUCKLER, Alice Mary Daughter Single F 28 1883 Assistant Teacher Middlesex Hackney
PITE, Florence Boarder Single F 45 1866 Clerk And General Assistant To Brother A Printer Middlesex Chelsea

On the original she had put 30 years married 8 children born alive and 6 still living

[Bucklerclan]

Thanks so much Jimmy and MathsGirl. You have been an amazing help. You have found my exact family and proof that my GGrandmother did exist and I had not imagined a Southampton connection. Maybe Alfred Buckler wanted to marry away from his family in the Isle of Wight, as they may not have approved of his marrying a German woman. I also have a vague feeling that an earlier generation of Stupakoff may have lived in or near Southampton for a while, possibly Simon Stupakoff, a taylor.

I still need to find a document which would confirm what district in Germany Mary was born.

Thanks a lot pals.

[mallosa]

Anyone know what a Stone Boy In Restaurant is??

Just had a look MG, could it say Stove Boy?

[Maths girl]

Possible death of Alfred:

Alfred James Buckler
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 56
District: Epsom
County: Surrey
Volume: 2a

[Maths girl]

Anyone know what a Stone Boy In Restaurant is??

Just had a look MG, could it say Stove Boy?

That makes more sense -- Thank you Mally

[Jimmy]

Can some one check this out please,

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921.

Mary Christina Frederica Wilhelmina Stupakoff. 1873.

[peterd]

Marriages Jun 1873.
Buckler Alfred James. Southampton. 2c. 45.
Floyd Eileen Lavinia. Southampton. 2c. 45.
Floyd Ellen Lavinia. Southampton. 2c. 45.
Floyd Helen Lavinia. Southampton. 2c. 45.
REYNOLDS Alfred Henry. Southampton. 2c. 45.
Stupakoff Mary C F W. Southampton. 2c. 45.

the marriage certificate should confirm who her father is it would be worth sending for

[Maths girl]

1871 Carlton Crescent, All Saints, Southampton
BLACKADER, Charles G Head M 45 1826 Canada British Subject MA Cantab Teacher of Classics and Mathematics
BLACKADER, Charlotte Wife F 32 1839 Germany
BLACKADER, Mary Daughter F 4 1867 London Scholar
BLACKADER, Catherine Daughter F 3 1868 Surrey Scholar
BLACKADER, Charles G Son M 1 1870 Surrey
GAWNE, John Boarder M 16 1855 Isle of Man Scholar
WOOD, Frederick Boarder M 15 1856 Gloucestershire Scholar
DOUGLAS, Frederick Boarder M 19 1852 Isle of Wight
HOWLETT, Edmond Boarder M 16 1855 India Scholar
ANDERSON, George Boarder M 17 1854 India Scholar
LIDDLE, William Boarder M 15 1856 Shropshire Scholar
DOVETON, Charles Boarder M 16 1855 India Scholar
COMYON, Charles Boarder M 15 1856 Gloucestershire Scholar
ANDERSON, Alexander Boarder M 14 1857 Ireland Scholar
SEYMOUR, Rebecca Servant F 25 1846 Cambridgeshire Nurse
STUPAKOFF, Mary Servant F 25 1846 Germany Cook
MARSH, Anne Servant F 21 1850 Hampshire Housemaid
EASTMAN, Elizabeth Servant F 14 1857 Hampshire Scullery Maid

Did she come from Germany with Charlotte?

As Charles was at Cambridge there could be more info in Alumni lists if they go back that far

[Maths girl]

1871 St Mary Street Unicorn Inn, St Mary, Southampton
STEADMAN, John Grafton Head M 41 1830 London Innkeeper
STEADMAN, Elizabeth Jane Wife F 40 1831 Kent
STEADMAN, Amy Ann Daughter F 11 1860 Hampshire
STEADMAN, Lily Eliza Daughter F 9 1862 Hampshire
BUCKLER, Alfred James Lodger M 25 1846 Isle of Wight Carpenter
FOOT, William Lodger M 25 1846 Dorset Carpenter