*Archive?* but still need help.....William Smart b abt 1852
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*Archive?* but still need help.....William Smart b abt 1852
I am going to stick this one on here cos it has bugged me for ages
Can someon pls post details for William Smart with father William Smart
in Rowley Regis on the 1861 census
he may be born in Leics ...but want to run here with it cos it sort of links to BC.
I want to know what happens to him?
Can someon pls post details for William Smart with father William Smart
in Rowley Regis on the 1861 census
he may be born in Leics ...but want to run here with it cos it sort of links to BC.
I want to know what happens to him?
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
I was only looking at him this week NL,looking for new clues. Where was he in 1881?
1861 Tibbetts Gardens RR
SMART, William Head Married M 43 1818 Furnace Man
Deeping Lincolnshire
SMART, Selena Wife Married F 31 1830 Lincolnshire
SMART, William Son M 8 1853 Scholar Lincolnshire
SMART, Joseph Son M 1 1860 Northamptonshire
Linell.
1861 Tibbetts Gardens RR
SMART, William Head Married M 43 1818 Furnace Man
Deeping Lincolnshire
SMART, Selena Wife Married F 31 1830 Lincolnshire
SMART, William Son M 8 1853 Scholar Lincolnshire
SMART, Joseph Son M 1 1860 Northamptonshire
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
In the 1881 census, next to Spencer Dodson, are these
William Roberts 65, scavenger,Lincolnshire,Mackdepen
Selina ditto 55 Lincolnshire, Longstaff
John ditto 8 gson Lancashire,Wigan
William Roberts 65, scavenger,Lincolnshire,Mackdepen
Selina ditto 55 Lincolnshire, Longstaff
John ditto 8 gson Lancashire,Wigan
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
1871 Tibbetts gardens
Wm Smart 53
Selina 43
No kids-
Wm Smart 53
Selina 43
No kids-
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
William Smart born Deeping Lincs abt 1852
the IGI there is a baptism for a William Roberts 1853 Langtoft Lincs 22nd May.
To a Selina Roberts no father.
-There are 2 Wm Smarts Regis in Bourn Lincs.
1853 March
1853 Jun
So could be either one.
Births Mar 1853 (95%)
Smart William Bourn 7a 285
Births Jun 1853 (98%)
Smart William Bourn 7a 290
the IGI there is a baptism for a William Roberts 1853 Langtoft Lincs 22nd May.
To a Selina Roberts no father.
-There are 2 Wm Smarts Regis in Bourn Lincs.
1853 March
1853 Jun
So could be either one.
Births Mar 1853 (95%)
Smart William Bourn 7a 285
Births Jun 1853 (98%)
Smart William Bourn 7a 290
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
That place of birth for Wm Roberts is Market Deeping isn't it, the same as 1861
Can't find a bap for a Wm Smart 1853 ish
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
Can you ask Lincoln Records Office for a print out of that Baptism?
the IGI there is a baptism for a William Roberts 1853 Langtoft Lincs 22nd May.
To a Selina Roberts no father.
the IGI there is a baptism for a William Roberts 1853 Langtoft Lincs 22nd May.
To a Selina Roberts no father.
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
think this is Selina in 1851 Living in Longtoft, Lincolnshire with her father and siblings.
Thomas Roberts
57
George Roberts
8
Jane Roberts
14
Selina Roberts
19
William Roberts
10
Deaths Dec 1883 Roberts Selina 57 Dudley 6c 4
Thomas Roberts
57
George Roberts
8
Jane Roberts
14
Selina Roberts
19
William Roberts
10
Deaths Dec 1883 Roberts Selina 57 Dudley 6c 4
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
1851 Langtoft Lincs
ROBERTS, Thomas Head Widower M 57 1794 Farm Labourer
Uffington
Lincolnshire
ROBERTS, Selina Wife Married F 19 1832
Langtoft
Lincolnshire
ROBERTS, Jane Daughter F 14 1837
Langtoft
Lincolnshire
ROBERTS, William Son M 10 1841
Langtoft
Lincolnshire
ROBERTS, George Son M 8 1843
Langtoft
Lincolnshire
ROBERTS, Thomas Head Widower M 57 1794 Farm Labourer
Uffington
Lincolnshire
ROBERTS, Selina Wife Married F 19 1832
Langtoft
Lincolnshire
ROBERTS, Jane Daughter F 14 1837
Langtoft
Lincolnshire
ROBERTS, William Son M 10 1841
Langtoft
Lincolnshire
ROBERTS, George Son M 8 1843
Langtoft
Lincolnshire
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
SNAP 
I take it that Selina is DA of Thomas not Wife
Just checked the image and that does say DA.
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I take it that Selina is DA of Thomas not Wife

Just checked the image and that does say DA.
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
registrar at Sandwell said
"We cannot locate any death entry for either a William Roberts or William Smart in our records dying in Rowley Regis.â€Â
Nb I asked them for father wm smart mother Selina and this Wm Smart /Roberts dying betw 1861 - 1871- but nothing.
-And Dudley..†I have searched our indexes between 1861 and 1871 for William Roberts
and William Smart and, as you point out, there are several.
I have checked all the appropriate registers and can find no connection
to Tibbetts Gardens/Cradley Heath area and none of these males were born
to Selina and William."
so my Q is
what happened to him?
how can he just disappear
What happened to Joseph Smart?
and who is that G.son John aged on 1881 with Selina
is this him....
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SMART John William Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/24/277
And there is a marriage in 1871 William Smart and Ann Fieran wigan lancs.
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SMART William FIERAN Ann Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROW/30/192
"We cannot locate any death entry for either a William Roberts or William Smart in our records dying in Rowley Regis.â€Â
Nb I asked them for father wm smart mother Selina and this Wm Smart /Roberts dying betw 1861 - 1871- but nothing.
-And Dudley..†I have searched our indexes between 1861 and 1871 for William Roberts
and William Smart and, as you point out, there are several.
I have checked all the appropriate registers and can find no connection
to Tibbetts Gardens/Cradley Heath area and none of these males were born
to Selina and William."
so my Q is
what happened to him?
how can he just disappear
What happened to Joseph Smart?
and who is that G.son John aged on 1881 with Selina
is this him....
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SMART John William Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/24/277
And there is a marriage in 1871 William Smart and Ann Fieran wigan lancs.
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SMART William FIERAN Ann Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROW/30/192
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
linell wrote:Can you ask Lincoln Records Office for a print out of that Baptism?
the IGI there is a baptism for a William Roberts 1853 Langtoft Lincs 22nd May.
To a Selina Roberts no father.
that might be an idea
might be more info I will do that
wonder which archives it would be...
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
Any good.
1881.
William SMART Head W Male 58 Deeping St Nicholas, Lincoln, England Blacksmith (Master)
Frances Emma SMART Daur U Female 21 New Fletton, Huntingdon, England Blacksmith Daughter
Catherine Barbara SMART Daur U Female 19 Walton, Northampton, England Blacksmith Daughter
John Henry SMART Son U Male 14 Walton, Northampton, England Blacksmith Son
Post Office Elloe
Deeping St Nicholas, Lincoln.
1881.
William SMART Head W Male 58 Deeping St Nicholas, Lincoln, England Blacksmith (Master)
Frances Emma SMART Daur U Female 21 New Fletton, Huntingdon, England Blacksmith Daughter
Catherine Barbara SMART Daur U Female 19 Walton, Northampton, England Blacksmith Daughter
John Henry SMART Son U Male 14 Walton, Northampton, England Blacksmith Son
Post Office Elloe
Deeping St Nicholas, Lincoln.
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
Just wondered if this could be Thomas and Selina in 1841, living at Castle Bytham Lincs. Can't find a Roberts, but with this family they can be called anything
HARRISON, Thomas M 45 1796
HARRISON, Jane Charlotte F 45 1796
HARRISON, Henry Thos M 17 1824 Lincolnshire
HARRISON, Selina F 8 1833 Lincolnshire
BAKER, Mary F 70 1771
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HARRISON, Thomas M 45 1796
HARRISON, Jane Charlotte F 45 1796
HARRISON, Henry Thos M 17 1824 Lincolnshire
HARRISON, Selina F 8 1833 Lincolnshire
BAKER, Mary F 70 1771
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Re: William Smart b abt 1852
Northern Lass wrote:linell wrote:Can you ask Lincoln Records Office for a print out of that Baptism?
the IGI there is a baptism for a William Roberts 1853 Langtoft Lincs 22nd May.
To a Selina Roberts no father.
that might be an idea
might be more info I will do that
wonder which archives it would be...
The Regis is Bourn Jan, but phone Lincoln first that will be the County Records Office.
Linell.