Lost in Sheerness!

[Sopertree]

I am looking for the parents names of my great great grandparents: Charles Thomas Soper born abt.1815 Sheerness, Isle of Sheppey and Lydia Ann Taylor born abt.1813 Gillingham, Kent. Charles was a sawyer in the dockyard. They married in Minster (Civil parish), Sheerness in 1836 and first 4 children were born in Minster also. The records seem to be missing from 'Kent Family History Society' parish registers. Anyone know where else I can search? Wondering whether to visit Canterbury or Maidstone archives? Any help please!

[peterd]

do you have there wedding info who were the witnesses ?

[peterd]

1881 4 Knotts Ter Deptford St Paul, Kent

Charles SOPER 68 Sheerness I Of Sheppey, Kent, Sawyer
Lydia Ann SOPER 68 Gillingham, Kent,
Charles T. SOPER 44 Sheerness, Kent, Clerk Unemployed
Frederick James SOPER 25 Deptford, Kent, Painter

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Many thanks for the promt reply! Yes that's the right family. They are mentioned in the census's but give me no clues as to their parents. The marriage details on the parish register mention James ?Taylor and an Edward Jarrett for witnesses. Incidentally, I found the marriage under the surname ?Jones but am certain this is their details as I had the date14.8.1836. It's therefore possible her father is James or could it be James Soper! Still nothing concrete to go on really.

[peterd]

poss james taylor could be a brother to lydia have you the rest of the census going back to 1841 ? if not can anyone find them please and see if any soper or taylors nearby chees pete

[Sopertree]

1841 census shows them as already having 3 children! Will look on ancestry for other James Taylor's in that area. Thanks.

[peterd]

1851 living at 4 Knolls Terrace, Deptford St Paul. kent

Charles Soper (c1815-?) Age 46, a sawyer sharpener b.Sheerness, Kent
wife Lydia Soper abt 1815 b.Gillingham, Kent
Charles T Soper 24 an electric telegraph club :
George H Soper 18 a porter, parcel delivery company, both b.Sheerness, Kent :
William R Soper 15 a printer labourer :
Henry E Soper 13 a vender of newspaper :
Emma Soper 11 :
Robert Soper 9, both scholars :
Frederick Soper 5 all born Deptford, Kent,,

[peterd]

other soper poss related in 1881 kent

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... census.htm

[peterd]

might be a brother for charles ? or at leat related ?

1881 East Hill Tailors Shop, Wandsworth, Surrey

John SOPER Head M Male 71 Sheerness, Kent, Master Tailor Employing 10 Men & 2 Boys
Sarah SOPER Wife M Female 69 Pluckley, Kent,
Emma GOLD Serv U Female 17 Marylebone, Middlesex, Gen Domestic Serv

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poss john and sarh marriage

John Soper
Sarah Neame Lissenden
Marriage: 14 JUN 1830 Milton Next Sittingbourne, Kent

[Jimmy]

CHARLES SOPER.
Christening, 24 OCT 1819. St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent.

Mother: AMEY SOPER.

[Sopertree]

Yes, the family moved to Deptford and had 9 children. I have already traced Soper offspring from these children as they all went on to have large families as well - mostly living in London. I also think John Henry was Charles' brother as I have traced him as being an ancestor of Baron Donald Soper (the outspoken politician) who, unfortunately, I have been told was related to us! I have tried researching his name but have also had no luck. With regard to Amey - would he have been christened at least 4 years after his birth? Am still checking 'James Taylor' but none have jumped out at me yet!

[Jimmy]

Some children wasn't christened until they were adults.

[FarSide]

Have you see this ancestral file on familysearch, maybe of help

Lydia Ann TAYLOR (AFN: 16NT-N82) Pedigree
Sex: F Family

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Event(s)
Birth: Jul 1818
, Lympne, Kent, England
Christening: 2 Aug 1818
, Lympne, Kent, England
Death: 27 Jul 1835
, Lympne, Kent, England
Burial: 29 Jul 1835
, Lympne, Kent, England

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Parents
Father: Thomas TAYLOR (AFN: 16NT-SXV) Family
Mother: Lydia NEWMAN (AFN: 16NT-RP8)

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1851 living at 4 Knolls Terrace, Deptford St Paul. kent

Charles Soper (c1815-?) Age 46, a sawyer sharpener b.Sheerness, Kent
wife Lydia Soper abt 1815 b.Gillingham, Kent
Charles T Soper 24 an electric telegraph club :
George H Soper 18 a porter, parcel delivery company, both b.Sheerness, Kent :
William R Soper 15 a printer labourer :
Henry E Soper 13 a vender of newspaper :
Emma Soper 11 :
Robert Soper 9, both scholars :
Frederick Soper 5 all born Deptford, Kent,,

Have you see this ancestral file on familysearch, maybe of help

Lydia Ann TAYLOR

Birth: Jul 1818 , Lympne, Kent, England
Christening: 2 Aug 1818 , Lympne, Kent, England
Death: 27 Jul 1835 , Lympne, Kent, England
Burial: 29 Jul 1835 , Lympne, Kent, England


Parents
Father: Thomas TAYLOR
Mother: Lydia NEWMAN

i seen that one fs but ruled it out as she alive in the 1851 census above ?