COMPLETED.....John Grosvenor

[Jimmy]

1851. Kingswinford. Parents Joseph and Lucinda.
Samuel Grosvenor. abt 1836.
Joseph Grosvenor. abt 1840.
John Grosvenor. abt 1841.
Fanny Grosvenor. abt 1846.
Abigail Grosvenor. abt 1849.
James Grosvenor. abt 1850.

Johns age is out if its the same one as 1871 census.

[grangers14]

Does this help from Southall thread?

grangers14 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:03 pm
And at 33,
James GROVESNOR Head M Male 29 Quarry Bk, Worcester, England Chainmaker
Jane GROVESNOR Wife M Female 28 Dudley, Worcester, England
Eliza GROVESNOR Daur Female 3 Rowley, Stafford, England
Maryan GROVESNOR Daur Female 2 Rowley, Stafford, England
Joseph GROVESNOR Son Male 10 m Rowley, Stafford, England

33 Tibbetts Garden.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.



They are in the same household as,
33 Tibbetts Garden
Edwin Appleby, head, 37, Collier,
Rebecca, wife, 36,
Eliza, daur, 14,
Esther, daur, 9,
Ezra, son, 7
Ezra, son, 6,
Edwin S, son, 1
All born Rowley Regis


1891 Census
33, Tibbetts Gardens
Rebecca Appleby, Head, W, 46, Dudley
Esther Appleby, daur, 20, Chain maker
Ezra, son, 16, Striker
Ezra, Adopted son, 16, Chain Maker
Edwin, son, 12,
James Grovensner, Boarder, 38, Chain maker, Kingswinford
Jane, wife, 36, Chain Maker, Dudley
Eliza, daur, 14, Chain maker
Mary A, daur, 13,
Alfred, son, 7
Lucinda, daur, 3,
Edwin, son, 1
All others born Rowley Regis

[Jimmy]

There's an assortment here in 1857:-

Grosvenor John Stourbridge 6c 283
Hane* George Stourbridge 6c 283
Harris Ann Maria Stourbridge 6c 283
Harris Maria Stourbridge 6c 283
Home John Stourbridge 6c 283
Little Mary * Stourbridge 6c

Linell.

West Midlands Marriage 1857.
GROSVENOR John, LITTLE Mary A. Quarry Bank, Christ Church. Dudley Register Office. 016/001/79.

[Northern Lass]

1851. Kingswinford. Parents Joseph and Lucinda.
Samuel Grosvenor. abt 1836.
Joseph Grosvenor. abt 1840.
John Grosvenor. abt 1841.
Fanny Grosvenor. abt 1846.
Abigail Grosvenor. abt 1849.
James Grosvenor. abt 1850.

Johns age is out if its the same one as 1871 census.

can anyone have a look at the original could that be James on the 1851
John already left?

[Northern Lass]

She's on as Ann:- Turnpike Road Quarry Bank Kingswinford 1871


GROSVENOR, John Head M 37 1834 Staffordshire
GROSVENOR, Mary Wife F 32 1839 Worcestershire
GROSVENOR, Lucinda Daughter F 14 1857 Worcestershire
GROSVENOR, Ann Daughter F 12 1859 Staffordshire
GROSVENOR, John Son M 10 1861 Staffordshire
GROSVENOR, William Son M 6 1865 Staffordshire
GROSVENOR, Fanny Daughter F 4 1867 Staffordshire

So John Married a Mary.

Linell.

he calls his dau Lucinda
that bapt would fit this one
too

[Northern Lass]

Basics, possible.
1861. Kingswinford.
Joseph Grosvenor. abt 1807.
Lucinda Grosvenor. abt 1812.
Joseph Grosvenor. abt 1840.
Abigail Grosvenor. abt 1848.
James Grosvenor. abt 1850.
Lucinda Grosvenor. abt 1853.

sorry could it be Joseph on the 1851
as he is born about 1840

[Northern Lass]

Could do with the 1841


and I think we change Henrietta to Ann as there is no Henrietta born
but there is an Ann kingswinford

[kdw]

1881 she is Ann Born Worcestershire
1891 shes Henrietta Born Quarry Bank
1901 shes Henrietta Born Quarry Bank
Possible death
Deaths Mar 1908
SOUTHALL Henrietta 49 Dudley 6c 1

[kdw]

1841 Quarry Bank
Joseph Grosvenor 35 Nail Maker not born in county
Lucinda Grosvenor 30 not born in county
John Grosvenor 8 born in county
Samuel Grosvenor 5 born in county
Seliena Grosvenor 3 born in county
Joseph GrosvenorJunr 1 born in county
John Harris 15 Pudler born in county
Joseph Harris 15 pudler born in county

1851 Quarry Bank New Road
Joseph Grosvenor Head 46 Nailer Born Cradley
Lucinda Grosvenor Wife 39 Domestic Born Cradley
John Grosvenor Son 10 Nailer Born Kingswinford Image says 18
Samuel Grosvenor Son 15 Nailer born Kingswinford
Joseph Grosvenor Son 11 Nailer Born Kingswinford
Fanny Grosvenor Daur. 5 Scholar Born Kingswinford
Abigail Grosvenor Daur. 2 Scholar Born KIngswinford
James Grosvenor Son 7 Mo Born Kingswinford

1861 New Road Kingswinford
Joseph Grosvenor Head 54 Horse Nail Maker Born Cradley
Lucinda Grosvenor Wife 49 Born Cradley
Joseph Grosvenor Son 21 Horse Nail Maker Born Kingswinford
Abigail Grosvenor Daur. 13 Nurses Born Kingswinford
James Grosvenor Son 11 Scholar Born Kingswinford
Lucinda Grosvenor Daur. 8 Scholar Born Kingswinford

1851 For Selina
Kinfare Row Wolverley
William Deeley Head 36 Bricklayer Born Cradley
Martha Deeley Wife 36 Born Salop N K
Sarah A Deeley Daur. 12 Born Cradley
Esther Deeley Daur. 9 Scholar Born Kingswinford
Selina Grovenor Niece 13 Born Kingswinford

Possible marriage for Selina
1857
GROSVENOR Silena HILL Edward Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/002/173

1861 Quarry Bank Evers Street
Samuel Grosvener Head 25 Horse nail Maker Born Kingswinford
Ema Grosvener Wife Born Kingswinford
Alice Grosvener Daur. 1 Born Kingswinford
Next door
Edward Hill Head lodger 26 Iron Pudlet Born Stourbridge
Selinah Hill Wife Born Kingswinford
William Hill Son 3 Born Kingswinford
Sarah Tipper Lodger Unm 19 Nailer Born Kingswinford
Agnes Tipper Daur 1 Born Kingswinford

1859
GROSVENOR Samuel COX Emma Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/002/305

Possible marriage for Joseph

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1863
GROSEVENOR Joseph TIPPER Sarah Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/003/136

[Northern Lass]

Starting to add this but could do with some help going to add JOhn and Mary

[kdw]

i'll add this

[kdw]

All added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =899228822

Marriages that need to be looked up
Children of Joseph and Lucinda

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1857
GROSVENOR John LITTLE Mary A Quarry Bank, Christ Church Dudley Register Office 016/001/79

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1859
GROSVENOR Samuel COX Emma Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/002/305

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1857
GROSVENOR Silena HILL Edward Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/002/173

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1863
GROSEVENOR Joseph TIPPER Sarah Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/003/136

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1872
GROSVENOR Abigail BOWKLEY Edward S Amblecote, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 015/002/486

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1877
GROSVENOR James PARSONS Eliza J Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/1/373

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1882
GROSVENOR Lucinda BILLINGHAM Arthur Quarry Bank, Christ Church Dudley Register Office 016/002/60

Children of John and Mary
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1885
ROBBINS * Jesse GROVENER Fanny Quarry Bank, Christ Church Dudley Register Office 016/002/206
ROBINS * Jesse GROVENER Fanny Quarry Bank, Christ Church Dudley Register Office 016/002/206

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1893
GROSVENOR Samuel MOBBERLEY Annie Quarry Bank, Christ Church Dudley Register Office 016/003/35

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1889
GROSVENOR John MATTHEWS Melinda Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/002/48

Lucinda Deeleys Brother
WILLIAM DEELEY
Marriages:
Spouse: MARTHA BOOTH Family
Marriage: 05 SEP 1831 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Kdw

This is now COMPLETEd