*Arc tbc* ---Sarah Poole

[grangers14]

Possible 1841 census
Primrose Hill, Dudley
Thomas Walker, 35, Stone miner
Maria, 35,
William, 8,
Thomas, 2,
Ellen, 1
/Benjamin Bannister, 70, nailor
Daniel, 20, Nailor
All born in County

[Northern Lass]

Linell has a Poole family :-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =877648381
On 1841 Census Linell notes a Sarah Poole born 1826 who married a John Russ but does not record daughter Sarah Ann Poole born 1837
I have a Sarah Poole born 1835/1836 who married a John Holden on 20/7/1863 Dudley.(Could be same one as locations fit)

Their son William Holden went on to marry an Emma Parsons in 1883 and I am trying to find where she fits in Parsons family

1851 Census Blackheath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Meriah Holden Head married 41 Nailer
Elizabeth Holden dau 20 Nailer
Meriah Holden dau 16 Nailer
John Holden 14 Nailer
Thomas Holden 2 born Rowley Staffs.
Jane Holden dau 1mth born Rowley Staffs.
Mary Priest lodger 18 Brickmaker
Rest born Worcs.

1861 Census Blackheath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Thomas Holden Head 53 Sinker
Maria Holden wife married 51 Nailer
Elizabeth Holden dau 29 Nailer
John Holden son 24 Nailer
Jane Holden dau 10 Nailer
All born Netherton Worcs.

So going back to this first question.

I think Sarah Ann is the dau of maybe Esther as Linell flags earlier
but we need that look up on marriage for John Holden and sarah ann poole
so until that is done we cant see who father is

Esther marries later in 1849 so did she have Sarah Ann before marriage is she dau of Daniel?
if we are not sure we need to put her father as unknown - adding a note on her

are there any bapts for Sarah Ann?
and for Andrew Poole

how do we know that those 2 have father as daniel bannister

[Northern Lass]

I suppose this is Esther, but no Sarah Ann there?

1851 Primrose Hill Dudley:-

BANNISTER, Daniel Head Married M 29 1822 Nail Maker
Dudley
Worcestershire VIEW
BANNISTER, Esther Wife Married F 29 1822 Nail Maker
Dudley
Worcestershire VIEW
BANNISTER, Benjamin Father Married M 80 1771 Retired Nail Maker
Dudley
Worcestershire
BANNISTER, Ellen Daughter F 4 1847
Dudley
Worcestershire
BANNISTER, John Son M 2 1849
Dudley
Worcestershire
HOMER, Daniel Visitor Unmarried M 31 1820 Nail Maker
Dudley
Worcestershire

[Northern Lass]

Ok so no Sarah Ann with them or Andrew

So how do we know they are parents
do we have them on a census with Esther and Daniel ?

[Northern Lass]

1851 Pear Tree St Rowley Regis:-

RUSS, John Head Married M 26 1825 Miner
Parish of Bristol
Gloucestershire
RUSS, Sarah Wife Married F 25 1826 Miner
Parish of Dudley
Worcestershire
POOLE, Sarah Mother-In-Law Widow F 55 1796 Nail Maker
Parish of Dudley
Worcestershire
POOLE, Andrew Nephew M 8 1843 Scholar
Parish of Dudley
Worcestershire

Ok so Andrew is here

so where is Sarah Ann Poole in 1851?

[linell]

Hi NL, this is the Poole family in 1841, I think Sarah is the illigitimate daughter of Esther:-

POOL, Andrew M 50 1791 Worcestershire
POOL, Sarah F 45 1796 Worcestershire
POOL, Esther F 20 1821 Worcestershire
POOL, Sarah F 15 1826 Worcestershire
POOL, Sarah Ann F 4 1837 Worcestershire
BATE, James M 15 1826 Worcestershire
SMITH, John M 20 1821 Worcestershire

[linell]

Here's Andrew Poole Jnr in 1851, although he is living with his Aunt and Grandmother, I think he is also a son of Esther and Unknown, have amended him on BCC:-

1851 Pear Tree Street RR
RUSS, John Head Married M 26 1825 Miner
Parish of Bristol
Gloucestershire
RUSS, Sarah Wife Married F 25 1826 Miner
Parish of Dudley
Worcestershire
POOLE, Sarah Mother-In-Law Widow F 55 1796 Nail Maker
Parish of Dudley
Worcestershire
POOLE, Andrew Nephew M 8 1843 Scholar
Parish of Dudley
Worcestershire

[linell]

Looks Ups added for Andrew Poole to Louisa Jones and Sarah Ann Poole to John Holden.

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Look ups done on this for 2 of marriages
HOLDEN William PARSONS Emma Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/038/41 1883
HOLDEN John POOLE Sarah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/021/406 1863

[Northern Lass]

26 Aug 1883 St Thomas Dudley
William Holden 20 bach Rivet Maker Dudley Father John Holden Rivet Maker
Emma Parsons 21 spin Dudley Father Samuel Parsons Rivet Maker
Wit; William Field Elizabeth Hipkiss X


20 July 1863 St Thomas Dudley
John Holden Full bach Horsenail Maker Dudley Father Thomas Holden Sinker
Sarah Poole Full spin Dudley Father Joseph Poole Rivet Maker
Wit; Samuel Webster X Emma Webster X


I am altering the tree on this

[Northern Lass]

I have taken Sarah Ann from dau of Esther Poole as we dont know who her mother is.
And I have altered Sarah Ann to Sarah Poole as per marriage info
I have added John holden and his father
will add the marriage for son William and Mumbles if you are around
could you connect and add what needs doing or I will try and do later

[Northern Lass]

Ok Mumbles have connected to Emma Parsons dau of Samuel on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=33227754

can you just check you are happy with this
if anyone has time can they just have a look at this too

[mumbles]

Thanks NL , I will add any info not added later

[Northern Lass]

Just wanted to ensure I had connected up Ok Mumbles
I think it is that Emma Parsons

Can we leave it to you to add the info needed and lets move this to archived if that is ok

So flagging to archive

[mumbles]

Nl, I have added all the Holden info but The Shaw Info is outstanding as Linell was to post marriage for Louisa Shaw to Joseph Holden as it could link back to her Shaw Tree