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cid wrote:1861 Oxford Road St Philip and St Jacob Bristol

TROMANS, Abel Head Married M 32 1829 Chainmaker Dudley Gloucestershire Image says Worcestershire
TROMANS, Mary Wife Married F 32 1829 ... Gloucestershire Image says Cradley Worcs
TROMANS, Caroline Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar ...Gloucestershire Image says Dudley Worcs
TROMANS, Mary Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
TROMANS, Selina Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
TROMANS, Charles Son M 4 1857 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
TROMANS, Sarah Daughter F 2 1859 Rowley Regis Staffordshire Image says Bristol St Philip St Jacob


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1891 At 67 St Thomas St Dudley

TROMAN, Abel Head Widower M 62 1829 Chain & Trace Manufacturer Dudley Worcestershire
TROMAN, Mary Daughter Single F 38 1853 Rowley Staffordshire
TROMAN, Walter Son Single M 21 1870 Chain & Trace Manufacturer Dudley Worcestershire
TROMAN, Albert Son Married M 34 1857 Grocer Rowley Staffordshire
TROMAN, George Son Single M 7 1884 London
TROMAN, Sidney Grandson Single M 6 1885 London



if charles and albert are the same person any one find them in 1871 and 1881, 1901,1911 please ?
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poss 1881

1881 23 Ironmonger St London, Middlesex,

Henry PAYNE Head 33 Southwark, Surrey, Railway Gards Foreman
Charlotte PAYNE Wife 36 Southwark, Surrey,
Henry PAYNE 6 Hackney, Middlesex, Scholar
William PAYNE 3 St Lukes, Middlesex, Scholar
Ernest PAYNE 1 St Lukes, Middlesex,
Charles A. TROMANS Boarder 24 Dudley, Stafford, Clerk
Fred H. TROMANS Boarder 13 Nr Dudley, Worcester, Clerk
Joseph HEMPMAN Boarder 19 St Lukes, Middlesex, Railway Porter
William MC DERMOTT Boarder 30 Dublin, Ireland Railway Porter
Robert MILLER Boarder 20 St Lukes, Middlesex, Book Binder
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SECKERSON, Myra Jane Granddaughter Single F 23 1888 Worcestershire Dudley Parents


SECKERSON James W TROMANS Sarah M 1887 Dudley Register Office West Midlands Dudley Register Office DRO/009/113


any one find them on 1891 and later census please
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started adding to bcc

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Found this will look for the other name now.

1911 census transcription details for: 7 Southolme ST
RG14PN2161 RG78PN74 RD26 SD1 ED18 SN244
TROMAN, Albert Head Married M 54 1857 Provision Merchant Dealer Staffordshire
TROMAN, Dorothy Wife Married
10 years F 30 1881 London
TROMAN, Lelia Daughter F 9 1902 School
TROMAN, Marjorie Daughter M 5 1906 School Essex Allthorne
TROMAN, Olive Daughter F 3 1908 Essex Allthorne

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Annie wrote:Found this will look for the other name now.

1911 7 Southolme st, Wandsworth, East Battersea, London

TROMAN, Albert Head Married M 54 1857 Provision Merchant Dealer Staffordshire
TROMAN, Dorothy Wife Married 10 years F 30 1881 London
TROMAN, Lelia Daughter F 9 1902 School
TROMAN, Marjorie Daughter M 5 1906 School Essex Allthorne
TROMAN, Olive Daughter F 3 1908 Essex Allthorne

Annie


here the marriage poss his second ?

Marriages Sep 1900

Tromans Charles Albert Wandsworth 1d 1445
West Dorothy Enid Wandsworth 1d 1445



annie is this london or essex ?
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Found this for Charles.

Annie

1911 census transcription details for: 180 Leicester Street Wolverhampton
RG14PN17013 RG78PN1051 RD369 SD4 ED4 SN39
TROTMAN, Charles John Head Married
8 years M 49 1862 Clerk Stafford Wolverhampton
TROTMAN, Lizzie Wife Married
8 years F 4 1907 Stafford Wolverhampton
TROTMAN, Charles Edward Son Single M 25 1886 Machinist Stafford Wolverhampton
GOUGH, Lily Gertrude Niece F 7 1904 School Stafford Wolverhampton
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think albert is the right one annie
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Does this help Peterd.

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2161 Reference:
RG14PN2161 RG78PN74 RD26 SD1 ED18 SN244

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
East Battersea EnumerationDistrict:
18 Parish:
Battersea

Address:
7 Southolme ST County:
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peterd wrote:think albert is the right one annie



That Marriage looks good for them, Wandsworth is in London does not mention Essex.

Not given up on Mary A yet still looking.

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started to added charles albert

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=54051006

any one find the 1901 please
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1901
150 Albion Road, Stoke Newington, London
Albert Tromans 43 - Grocer shopkeeper - b Dudley
Dorothy Tromans 25 - b Hants? Aldershot
George Tromans 19
Sidney Tromans 15
Florence Tromans 14
Daisy Bartick 16 - General servant
others b Battersea London
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peterd wrote:SECKERSON, Myra Jane Granddaughter Single F 23 1888 Worcestershire Dudley Parents


SECKERSON James W TROMANS Sarah M 1887 Dudley Register Office West Midlands Dudley Register Office DRO/009/113


any one find them on 1891 and later census please


1891
C. West Villas, Battersea
Polly Tromans 36 - Wife - Married - Grocer - Clerkenwell
Harry Tromans 12 - b Marylebone, London
Florie Tromans 4 - b Battersea, London
Elizabeth Watts 15 - b Chelsea, London
Frederick H Tromans 23 - bro in law - Merchants clerk & cashier - b Netherton
James W Seckerson 27 - bro in law - Married - Grocer - b Dudley
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May already have this
1881
23 Ironmonger St
Henry Payne 33 - Railway goods foreman - b Southwark
Charlotte Payne 36 - b Southwark
Henry Payne 6 - b Middlesex
William Payne 3 b Middlesex
Ernest Payne 1 b Middlesex
Charles A. Tromans 24 - Boarder - Clerk - b Dudley
Fred H. Tromans 13 - Boarder - Clerk - b Dudley
Joseph Hempman 19 - Boarder - Railway Porter - b Middlesex
William Mc Dermott 30 Boarder - Railway Porter - b Dublin
Robert Miller 20 - Boarder - Book binder - b Middlesex
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updated

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