*ARc tbc* --John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822

[Northern Lass]

done a look up
will add link soon

here is marriage
Gill side we are ok on

Who is father for John ...he is another John can we find a dob and him on census
maybe living near them in 1841


Marriage info added and looked up at archives by Jan<br>
22nd March 1841 St Thomas Dudley<br>
John Billingham - of full age- bach- miner- Dudley Wood Parish of Dudley- John Billingham- Chainmaker<br>
Mary Gill- minor- spinster- Dudley Wood- Daniel Gill - miner<br>
banns<br>
X both <br>
Wit- Charles Thomas / X Elizabeth Thomas

[Northern Lass]

Here is link
on which census info

netherton area

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =359115748

any bapt for him?

[grangers14]

Unless they were living together before marriage. 1841 Census taken 6th June.
??
1841 Census
Dudley Wood, Dudley
John Billingham, 41, Chain M
Samuel, 15,
Martha, 35,
Sarah, 13,
Mary, 6,
Martha, 2,
Anna, 3 months
all born County


Would that area use Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley for Christenings?

[cid]

There are these at Tibbets Garden, Rowley Regis
1841

BILLINGAM, John M 25 1816 Cole? Miner Staffordshire
BILLINGAM, Mary F 20 1821 not born in county

I can only see one marriage for a John Billingham and a Mary on West Mid BMDand thats the one above, although there is this one which I suppose they could be

BILLINGHAM John WOODHOUSE Maria Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/237

[Jimmy]

JOHN BILLINGHAM
Christening, 18 MAR 1824. Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester
Parents:
JOHN BILLINGHAM.
MARTHA.

[grangers14]

I'd seen a couple there Jimmy but as I dont know the area I wasnt sure if that would be a place to go?
It was the place Dudley Wood that was given on the marriage info is what made me think of that 1841 census.
Jo

[Northern Lass]

I would have thought if that area st Thomas Dudley for early ones

Is Dudley wood near Quarrybank area?

So St Johns dudley Wood but that is later I think


so could be any church around
or not bapt at all

I just wondered if we could pick up a rellie near em on census

[cid]

poss siblings

DIANNA BILLINGHAM
Christening: 26 MAR 1826 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England

SAMUEL BILLINGHAM
Birth: 14 NOV 1825
Christening: 26 MAR 1826 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England

SARAH BILLINGHAM
Birth 11 APR 1828
Christening: 15 MAR 1829 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England

JOHN BILLINGHAM
Birth 11 FEB 1832
Christening: 11 MAR 1832 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England
Father: JOHN BILLINGHAM Family
Mother: MARTHA

All EXTRACTED

also these SUBMITTED entries
SARAH BILLINGHAM Birth 1826 Dudley
MARY BILLINGHAM Birth 1835 Dudley Worcester
MARTHA BILLINGHAM Birth 1839 Dudley Worcester
Anna Billingham Birth 1840 Dudley Worcester
Leah BILLINGHAM Birth 1849 Dudley Worcester
Father: John BILLINGHAM Family
Mother: Martha Yardley

[cid]

I would have thought if that area st Thomas Dudley for early ones

Is Dudley wood near Quarrybank area?

So St Johns dudley Wood but that is later I think


so could be any church around
or not bapt at all

I just wondered if we could pick up a rellie near em on census

Dudley Wood right next to Quarry Bank, but also right next to Cradley Heath and Cradley.
So they could have lived on the border of all these areas and used whichever church took their fancy i suppose

[Northern Lass]

Ok here they are on census

any rellies near em

1851 census
John Billingham, head, 30, Chain maker
Mary, / 27, netherton
Benjamin, son, 8,
James, son, 6,
Joseph, son, 5,
Henry, son, 3 months
All others born Rowley Regis

1861 Census Tibbetts garden, Rowley Regis
John Billingham,head, 42, Chain Maker
Mary, wife, 39, Dudley
Benjamin, son, 18, Chain maker
James, son, 16, Chain maker
Joseph, son, 13, Chain maker
Henry, son, 10,
Selvia, daur, 8,
Selena, daur, 6
Alfred, son, 3,
All others born Rowley Regis



1871 Census Tibbetts Gardens, Rowley regis
John Billingham, head, 49, Chain maker
Mary, wife, 48, Dudley
James, son, 24, Chain maker
Henry, son, 19, Chain maker
Sylvia, daur, 17, chain maker
Selina, daur, 15, Chain maker
Alfred, son, 12,
Maryann, daur, 9,
John, son, 7
All others born Rowley regis

[Northern Lass]

There are these at Tibbets Garden, Rowley Regis
1841

BILLINGAM, John M 25 1816 Cole? Miner Staffordshire
BILLINGAM, Mary F 20 1821 not born in county

I can only see one marriage for a John Billingham and a Mary on West Mid BMDand thats the one above, although there is this one which I suppose they could be

BILLINGHAM John WOODHOUSE Maria Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/237

that 1851 for our John and Mary where is it

and this couple above must be ours too in 1841??

[cid]

Marriage SUBMITTED

John BILLINGHAM
MARTHA YARDLEY

21 APR 1822 Kingswinford, Stafford, England

[cid]

1841 census

No other BILLINGHAMS that I can see on this page , previous or next page

[Northern Lass]

Ok here they are on census

any rellies near em

1851 census
John Billingham, head, 30, Chain maker
Mary, / 27, netherton
Benjamin, son, 8,
James, son, 6,
Joseph, son, 5,
Henry, son, 3 months
All others born Rowley Regis

1861 Census Tibbetts garden, Rowley Regis
John Billingham,head, 42, Chain Maker
Mary, wife, 39, Dudley
Benjamin, son, 18, Chain maker
James, son, 16, Chain maker
Joseph, son, 13, Chain maker
Henry, son, 10,
Selvia, daur, 8,
Selena, daur, 6
Alfred, son, 3,
All others born Rowley Regis



1871 Census Tibbetts Gardens, Rowley regis
John Billingham, head, 49, Chain maker
Mary, wife, 48, Dudley
James, son, 24, Chain maker
Henry, son, 19, Chain maker
Sylvia, daur, 17, chain maker
Selina, daur, 15, Chain maker
Alfred, son, 12,
Maryann, daur, 9,
John, son, 7
All others born Rowley regis

thanks Cid so how about on this lot

any rellies near for John Billingham

[grangers14]

1851 census
John Billingham, head, 30, Chain maker
Mary, wife, 27, Netherton
Benjamin, son, 8,
James, son, 6,
Joseph, son, 5,
Henry, son, 3 months
All others born Rowley Regis

The area is Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis and as Bellingham nothing that jumps out to me on the 1851 census as billinghams near by. Have updated BCC with address.