*Arc tbc* --1911 Census - Look up please

[mallosa]

Can anyone find this family in 1911 please?

1901: 7 bk 75 Icknield Square, Ladywood, Birmingham, Warwickshire
Thomas Lee 34 Head M Lab/Pudd at Tube Works
Lucy Lee 33 Wife M
William Lee 13 Son
Agnes Lee 11 Dau
Thomas Lee 10 Son
Fred Lee 9 Son
Edward Lee 8 Son
Alice Lee 4 Dau
(all born Birmingham)

[mallosa]

Just another thought failing that...

how about replacing the surname with WILSON?

Thomas Wilson 34 Head M Lab/Pudd at Tube Works
Lucy Wilson 33 Wife M
William Wilson 13 Son
Agnes Wilson 11 Dau
Thomas Wilson 10 Son
Fred Wilson 9 Son
Edward Wilson 8 Son
Alice Wilson 4 Dau
(all born Birmingham)

[Maths girl]

Can anyone find this family in 1911 please?

1901: 7 bk 75 Icknield Square, Ladywood, Birmingham, Warwickshire
Thomas Lee 34 Head M Lab/Pudd at Tube Works
Lucy Lee 33 Wife M
William Lee 13 Son
Agnes Lee 11 Dau
Thomas Lee 10 Son
Fred Lee 9 Son
Edward Lee 8 Son
Alice Lee 4 Dau
(all born Birmingham)

I tried all sorts on this family with no success.

[BC Wench]

Just another thought failing that...

how about replacing the surname with WILSON?

Thomas Wilson 34 Head M Lab/Pudd at Tube Works
Lucy Wilson 33 Wife M
William Wilson 13 Son
Agnes Wilson 11 Dau
Thomas Wilson 10 Son
Fred Wilson 9 Son
Edward Wilson 8 Son
Alice Wilson 4 Dau
(all born Birmingham)

Found this family and on the image it does state Louisa not Lucy and Edwin not Edward.

21 Spring Hill Passage Birmingham Warwickshire
WILSON, Louisa Head Widow 43 Charwoman Birmingham
WILSON, Frederick Son Single 19 News Agent Birmingham
WILSON, Edwin Son Single 17 Nail Maker Birmingham
WILSON, Alice Daughter 14 Wirer Birmingham
WILSON, James Son 7 Birmingham
WILSON, Henry Son 2 Birmingham
TAYLOR, Albert Boarder Single 21 News Agent Birmingham

[mallosa]

Thankyou for trying MG

Thankyou so much BC Wench, that surely must be them, don't you think? William (my grandfather) isn't at home cos he married in 1907 ...

OH!..... I don't suppose you could find him and wife Clara in 1911 could you? Pleeeese

[Maths girl]

OH!..... I don't suppose you could find him and wife Clara in 1911 could you? Pleeeese

is this him as Lee?

1901 5 Back 39 Pope St B'ham
LEE, William Head Married M 23 1888 Emery Wheeler Birmingham
LEE, Clara Wife Married 5 years F 23 1888 Home Duties Birmingham
LEE, Clara Daughter F 3 1908 Birmingham
LEE, Thomas Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Birmingham
FRADLEY, Gertrude Boarder Single F 13 1898 Polisher Birmingham

Just out of curiosity -- why didn't they know whether they were Wilson or Lee?

[mallosa]

Thanks again MG...your guess is as good as mine

Just gone through some of the archived posts regarding this, trying to find out but still none the wiser! You put a lot into this at the time, remember?

Maybe Williams father Thomas William Wilson was born to Martha Wilson out of wedlock in 1866, she married Alfred Thomas Lee in 1867

Marriages Jun 1867
CHAMBERS Henry Birmingham 6d 206
COATES Jane Birmingham 6d 206
LEE Alfred Thomas Birmingham 6d 206
Willson Martha Birmingham 6d 206

Here's Thomas William with surname as Lee...

1871: 17 Darby Street, Deritend, Aston
Alfred Thomas Lee 26 Head Metal Annealer? Mountswell, Leicester
Mertha Lee 22 Wife Birmingham
Thomas William Lee 4 Son Aston Birmingham
Agnes Lee 1 Dau Aston Birmingham

Here's the same Thomas William, still with surname Lee Living with his step grandmother (Alfred Thomas's mother)

1881 4 H Bk 109 Great Barr St Aston, Warwick
Ann LEE Head W Female 71? Waltham On The Wolds, Leicester, England
William LEE Son U Male 43 Mount Sorrall, Leicester, England Wire Cleaner
Joseph LEE Son U Male 31 Birmm, Warwick, England Tube Maker
Lillian LEE Grand Daur U Female 18 Birmm, Warwick, England Tube Charger
Thomas LEE Grand Son Male 14 Birmm, Warwick, England Tube Worker

Thomas married Lucy Lane in 1887 but now uses the surname of his mother Martha (Wilson) - his occupation is Tube borer

Their son William Wilson is born in 1888

Here he is with his grandparents (where are his parents?)

1891:Leech Street, Ladywood (not far from Icknield Square where William was born)
(all born Birmingham)
Alfred Lee 45 Head Tube Maker
Martha Lee 43 Wife
Sarah Lee 18 Dau Tube Charger
Rebecca Lee 16 Dau Tube Charger
John W Lee 11 Son
Alice Lee 8 Dau
Kate Lee 5 Dau Dom Serv
William Wilson 3 Gr.Son
Alice Chatwin 17 Niece
Julia Piper 17 Lodger

1901: 7 bk 75 Icknield Square, Ladywood, Birmingham, Warwickshire
Thomas Lee 34 Head M Lab/Pudd at Tube Works
Lucy Lee 33 Wife M
William Lee 13 Son
Agnes Lee 11 Dau
Thomas Lee 10 Son
Fred Lee 9 Son
Edward Lee 8 Son
Alice Lee 4 Dau
(all born Birmingham)

William Wilson married Clara Fradley in 1907 at St Laurence Church, Aston, Birmingham (I have the Cert)

1911 : 5 Back 39 Pope St B'ham
LEE, William Head Married M 23 1888 Emery Wheeler Birmingham VIEW
LEE, Clara Wife Married
5 years F 23 1888 Home Duties Birmingham
LEE, Clara Daughter F 3 1908 Birmingham
LEE, Thomas Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Birmingham
FRADLEY, Gertrude Boarder Single F 13 1898 Polisher Birmingham (Clara's sister?)

I wonder if this is Williams father...

Deaths Mar 1909
WILSON Thomas 42 Birmingham 6d 14

1911: 21 Spring Hill Passage Birmingham Warwickshire
WILSON, Louisa Head Widow 43 Charwoman Birmingham
WILSON, Frederick Son Single 19 News Agent Birmingham
WILSON, Edwin Son Single 17 Nail Maker Birmingham
WILSON, Alice Daughter 14 Wirer Birmingham
WILSON, James Son 7 Birmingham
WILSON, Henry Son 2 Birmingham
TAYLOR, Albert Boarder Single 21 News Agent Birmingham

I am convinced now, that I should send for one of these cos on 1911 Census they are down as 'Lee'

Births Jun 1908
Wilson Clara Birmingham 6d 144

Birth 1911
WILSON Thomas Birmingham 6d 8

Sorry folks, had to go over this again, just to see if I'd missed anything

[Northern Lass]

Can this be archived flagging to archive

[mallosa]

Yes thanks NL