*Arc tbc* ---Smart/Hadley/Ferraby Connection

[mumbles]

Whilst following up Ferraby Family came across possible to connection to Sarah Smart :-
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... onnections
An Ancestry Tree
has a Roland Hadley married to a Sarah Smart and their son Robert Douglas Hadley married Enzey Annie Ferraby (on bcc)
1901 Census Islington Row Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Roland Hadley Head 58 Nut & Bolt Maker
Sarah Hadley wife 57
Hannah Faulkner dau (m) 31 Spike & Nail Maker
Jane Hadley dau 23 Button Polisher (Horn)
Roland Hadley son 18 Tube Screwer (Iron & Steel)
Robert Hadley son 14 Spade & Shovel Filer
Vernon Hadley son 12
Gerald Faulkner grd.son 10
All born Halesowen
Tree has Smart Family back further than we have on bcc

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1881 Islington Halesowen, Worcester

Roland HADLEY 38 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Forger
Sarah HADLEY 36 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Forger
Mary Ann HADLEY 16 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Forger
Hannah Maria HADLEY 14 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Forger
Emma HADLEY 11 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Forger
John HADLEY 9 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Sarah Jane HADLEY 4 Halesowen, Worcester,
George HADLEY 1 Halesowen, Worcester,


3 doors up

1881 Islington Halesowen, Worcester

Charles SMART 29 Halesowen, Worcester, Bricklayer
Mary SMART 29 Cradley Hth, Stafford, Chain Forger
Ann Eliza Green SMART 10 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar
William SMART 7 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar
Mary Jane SMART 6 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar
Charles Edward SMART 4 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar
Chatharine Alice SMART 1 Cradley, Worcester,



there charles here with a sister sarah ann c 1849 ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =532879208

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marriage

Marriages Dec 1864

Hadley Rowland Stourbridge 6c 305
Hardy William Stourbridge 6c 305
HOPKINS Isabella Stourbridge 6c 305
Smart Sarah Stourbridge 6c 305

[mumbles]

Maria Hadley married William Douglas at St.John Halesowen 21/7/1850
Ancestry Tree shows Hannah Hadley as unmarried mother of Maria Hadley and Maria Hadley as unmarried mother of Roland Hadley and Emma Hadley
Later Census records for William & Maria show a new family of children with no link to Roland or Emma

[mumbles]

Sarah Anne Smart born 1849 looks too young and was daughter of Edward Smart who was brother of John Smart born 1822 who married Emma Ward and had daughter Sarah born 1845 who is right age.
It is difficult as Smarts and Hadley families all over Islington and tended to call children by same names

[mumbles]

Must be the other Sarah Smart as Sarah Anne Smart not married and living with father Edward Smart in 1871
Mother of Edward Smart is also living with Edward until death in 1880
Ancestry Tree has her as Mary Vernon not Mary Cocksey possible noted on bcc. noted as married to Joseph Smart in Wellington Shrops. on 7/1/1811
1851 Census Islington Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Edward Smart Head 34 Nail Maker
Sarah Smart wife 30 born Ipswich Suffolk
Thomas Smart son 10 Nail Maker
George Smart son 6 Scholar
Edward Smart son 4
Sarah Anne Smart 2
Mary Smart (u) 55 Pauper Nail Maker
Ellen Smart lodger 16
Anne Dingley niece 7
Rest all born Halesowen Worcs.

1861 Census Islington Street Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Edward Smart Head 43 Nail Maker
Sarah Smart wife 39 born Ipswich Suffolk
Thomas Smart son 20 Nail Maker (Widower)
George Smart son 16 Bricklayers Labourer
Sarah Anne Smart 12 Works at Button Factory
Charles Smart son 9 Scholar
Mary Smart dau 3
Jane Smart dau 7mths.
Mary Smart (wid) 64 retired Nail Maker
Rest all born Halesowen Worcs.

1871 Census Islington Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Edward Smart Head 53 Nail Maker
Sarah Smart wife 49 born Ipswich Suffolk
Sarah A. Smart 22 Horn Button Maker
Mary Smart dau 12 Nail Maker
Jane Smart dau 10 Scholar
Mary Smart (wid) Mother 78 Annuitant
Rest all born Halesowen Worcs.

[mumbles]

Have filled in details and made connection between Roland Hadley and Sarah Smart born 1847 as other Sarah Anne eliminated.
What is still to be determined is who mother and father of Roland Hadley was
1841 Census Islington Halesowen Stourbridge Shrops .
Mary Hadley 45 Nailer
Sarah Hadley 13
Hanah Hadley 40
Maria Hadley 15
Ann Hadley 15
Charles Hadley 12
Emma Hadley 6
All born Shrops.

As noted Ancestry Tree has Hannah as unmarried mother of Maria and Roland and Emma as children of unmarried Maria who went on to marry William Douglas

[mumbles]

Roland Hadley is living with Joseph Basterfield and Jane ( already on bcc ) in 1861 together with Emma Hadley and they are noted as Niece and Nephew.
I have inserted under Joseph and Roland on bcc
Basterfield family are obviously related as an Hadley is living with them on all Census records through to 1871

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marriage

Marriages Dec 1864

Hadley Rowland Stourbridge 6c 305
Hardy William Stourbridge 6c 305
HOPKINS Isabella Stourbridge 6c 305
Smart Sarah Stourbridge 6c 305

its a pity this cannot be checked as there might be a sarah ann smart unaccounted for on census you search ?

[mumbles]

The only Sarah Ann Smarts found were either married to someone else or not married at 1871

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Census for Sarah Smart married to Roland Hadley varied between 1844,1845,1847 as year of birth and always referred to her as Sarah . Daughter of John & Emma Smart is always referred to as Sarah (not Sarah Ann) and on Census records year of birth is 1847 and she disappears on 1871 Census as most likely married
She was born Halesowen and registration would be Stourbridge and only two born Registered in Stourbridge were Registered in 1846 and 1849
The 1849 one is eliminated as noted above as not married in 1871

[mumbles]

The Ann Hadley on 1841 Census is possible candidate for being parent of Roland Hadley
But she is found on 1861 & 1871 Census as unmarried and mother of Elizabeth Hadley who is shown as grd.dau of Hannah Hadley on 1851 Census
1861 Census Islington Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Anne Hadley Head (u) 36 Nailer
Elizabeth Hadley dau (u) 13 Nurse
Both born Halesowen Worcs.

1871 Census Islington Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Anne Hadley Head (u) 46 Nailer
Elizabeth Hadley dau (u) 23 Nailer
Both born Halesowen Worcs.

This leaves Maria from 1841 Census as most likely candidate to be unmarried mother of Emma & Roland ( as per Ancestry tree)

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The Ann Hadley on 1841 Census is possible candidate for being parent of Roland Hadley
But she is found on 1861 & 1871 Census as unmarried and mother of Elizabeth Hadley who is shown as grd.dau of Hannah Hadley on 1851 Census
1861 Census Islington Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Anne Hadley Head (u) 36 Nailer
Elizabeth Hadley dau (u) 13 Nurse
Both born Halesowen Worcs.

1871 Census Islington Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Anne Hadley Head (u) 46 Nailer
Elizabeth Hadley dau (u) 23 Nailer
Both born Halesowen Worcs.

This leaves Maria from 1841 Census as most likely candidate to be unmarried mother of Emma & Roland ( as per Ancestry tree)

Hi Mumbles not followed this
but what do you need re certif it is for the BCC tree
can you let me know?

[mumbles]

NL , I have added all info. but
connection to Sarah Smart who married Roland Hadley is not based on cert. as not on WMBMD only on FreeBMD.
Based on checking all Sarah Smarts born in period 1844 to 1849 and only two registered in Stourbridge are the one I have connected and one who is a cousin but not married on Census after 1864 marriage.
Also 4 trees on Ancestry noting Sarah I have connected is correct one.

As also noted Parents of Roland are not clear as it would appear he was son of possibly Maria Hadley unmarried who was in turn daughter of unmarried mother Hannah Hadley (see 1841 Census and 1851 Census above) This is also noted on Ancestor tree

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If you need the free bmd one to make sure Mumbles let me know and I will send it
I really am not up on this thread ....soz

can we archive this or do you need more info?