*Help pls adding info to BCC* -Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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Northern Lass wrote:Yes agree

Emmanuel marries Sarah Westwood...look up down
son Solomon marries Martha...look up down
Dau Sarah marries Oliver Shaw ...look up down

but I cant believe none are on Bcc.... :(
and just wondered if someone can have a look in case I missed em


Don't see any of them either..
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Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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1871
Club Buildings, Rowley
Soloman Tromans 30 - Carter
Martha Tromans 29
Sarah Priest 8 - daug
all b Rowley


peterd wrote:1891 census this might be william and sarah ?



1881 66 Club Building Rowley Regis, Stafford

Solomon TROMANS 40 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Horse Driver (Miner)
Martha TROMANS 38 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Sarah C. TROMANS 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
William TROMANS 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
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Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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1851 (looks like Tromas on image)
Club Building, Rowley
Emanuel Thomas 36 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
Sarah Thomas 42
David Thomas 11 - Chainmaker
Soloman Thomas 10
Rowland Thomas 8
William Thomas 2
others b Rowley


poss marriage

but where is he in 1861 ?

TROWMAN Rowland WILLETTS Hannah 1877 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/004/299
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Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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peterd wrote:poss marriage

TROWMANS Solomon PRIEST Martha 1862 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/021/160

SOLOMON TROWMANS
MARTHA PRIEST
Marriage: 25 DEC 1862 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


Wonder if this is Martha on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =850738891
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Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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That marriage belongs to the son of Matthew so not the son of Emmanuel
ROWLAND TROWMAN. HANNAH WILLETTS.
Marriage info added by Jan
16 July 1877 St Johns Halesowen
-Roland Tromans- 23- bach- chainmaker- Hawne Matthew Tromans- Chainmaker
-Hannah Willetts- 22- spinster- nailer- Hawne - Frederick Willetts Chainmaker
banns
Roland signed and X Hannah
Wit- Hiriam? Tromans/ Hester? Trowman
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Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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Northern Lass wrote:That marriage belongs to the son of Matthew so not the son of Emmanuel
ROWLAND TROWMAN. HANNAH WILLETTS.
Marriage info added by Jan
16 July 1877 St Johns Halesowen
-Roland Tromans- 23- bach- chainmaker- Hawne Matthew Tromans- Chainmaker
-Hannah Willetts- 22- spinster- nailer- Hawne - Frederick Willetts Chainmaker
banns
Roland signed and X Hannah
Wit- Hiriam? Tromans/ Hester? Trowman


Could Hiriam be Miriam?
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Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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Maths girl wrote:
Northern Lass wrote:That marriage belongs to the son of Matthew so not the son of Emmanuel
ROWLAND TROWMAN. HANNAH WILLETTS.
Marriage info added by Jan
16 July 1877 St Johns Halesowen
-Roland Tromans- 23- bach- chainmaker- Hawne Matthew Tromans- Chainmaker
-Hannah Willetts- 22- spinster- nailer- Hawne - Frederick Willetts Chainmaker
banns
Roland signed and X Hannah
Wit- Hiriam? Tromans/ Hester? Trowman


Could Hiriam be Miriam?


no it is Hiriam and they are bro and sis

Hiriam and Kester or that is what she is on marriage
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Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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FarSide wrote:
peterd wrote:poss marriage

TROWMANS Solomon PRIEST Martha 1862 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/021/160

SOLOMON TROWMANS
MARTHA PRIEST
Marriage: 25 DEC 1862 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


Wonder if this is Martha on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =850738891


I think you have something there Fs
the westwood link is with that family too
and club buildings
she is not on 1871 but on 1861
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Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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peterd wrote:
1851 (looks like Tromas on image)
Club Building, Rowley
Emanuel Thomas 36 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
Sarah Thomas 42
David Thomas 11 - Chainmaker
Soloman Thomas 10
Rowland Thomas 8
William Thomas 2
others b Rowley


poss marriage

but where is he in 1861 ?

TROWMAN Rowland WILLETTS Hannah 1877 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/004/299


Don't see him either
Wonder if this is him

Deaths Sep 1852
TROMANS Roland Dudley 6c 2
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Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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Added this marriage to lookups, as there's 4 possibles

1858
SHAW Benjamin ADAMS Sarah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/017/343

1861
65 Netherton Hill, Rowley
Benjamin Shaw 28 - Nailor
Sarah Shaw 21 - b Bilston
Louise S Shaw 1
Oliver N B Shaw 1 Mo
others b Netherton

1871
High Street, Rowley
Benjamin Shaw 38 - Stationer & Local preacher - b Pensentt
Sarah Shaw 31 - b Bilston
Lois Lowe Shaw 11
Oliver G B Shaw 10
Emma C Shaw 8
others b Dudley

1881 (occ's - Lois & Oliver were round the other way on image)
86 Garratts Lane, Rowley
Benjamin Shaw 48 - Widr - Stationer & Local Meth preacher - b Kingswinford
Lois L. Shaw 21 - Shopwoman Stationer
Oliver J.B. Shaw 20 - Screw facer
Emma C. Shaw 18 - Dress maker
others b Netherton


FarSide wrote:Wit on marriage of Enos Mantle and Eudora Woodall


<br>26 Aug 1883 St Luke Cradley Heath<br>
Enos Mantle -22 -bach- Machinist -Reddall Hill -Father -George Mantle (Deceased) Tailor<br>
Eudora Woodall- 21 -spin -Reddall Hill -Father Samuel Woodall -Chain Maker <br>
Wit;Oliver Shaw /Sarah Elizabeth Shaw<br><br>

1881
SHAW Oliver TROMANS Sarah Stourbridge, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 006/001/177

1891
56 Congreaves Road, Rowley
Emanuel Tromans 76 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
William Tromans 16 - grandson - Engine fitter apprentice
Oliver Shaw 30 - Engine fitter - b Dudley
Sarah Shaw 28 - Chainmaker
Horace Shaw 6
Bertie Shaw 2
others b Rowley

1901
Spion cottage, Congreaves Road, Rowley
Oliver Shaw 40 - Fitter machine - b Netherton
Sarah Shaw 38
Horace Shaw 16 - Add coome? shackle maker
Bertie Shaw 12
May Shaw 7
Ewart Shaw 3
Doris Shaw 2
Clarice Shaw 4 months
others b Rowley
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Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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So much info on this and quite complicated and involved
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but I think we have something with this lot
think Martha may be on
all look ups on

but we could start to add some...carefully :?
I will try and do it or if anyone else can start it off

flagging for help adding to BCC
cant see emmanuel, solomon Tromans or oliver shaw on BCC but could have missed it
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Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* -Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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Hi Northern Lass I will add the Shaw /Tromans and check again at the same time if they are on.

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Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* -Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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Thanks for helping add this Annie
I am just adding more ....

getting a bit lost

I think Sarah Westwood is this one

SARAH WESTWOOD
Christening: 23 OCT 1808 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL WESTWOOD Mother: ELIZABETH
Extracted

and I think it is this lot here...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =295839665

but one son bapt RR
other is bapt Cradley

there is another on IGI to a Samuel and Elizabeth WEstwood bapt 1813
dunno on that one
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Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* -Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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Norther Lass this is Oliver Shaw link:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =644345370

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Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* -Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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Ok thanks for all the help
this is all on now pending look ups so going to arch
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