*Help pls adding info to BCC* -Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans

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NOTE by NL....split from Enos Mantle

can we find more on him
and her if poss

I think they link to
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

Hannah Sidaway who married Jesse Raybould in 1827 at Halesowen.

and they may link to Matthew Tromans who married Susannah flemmin
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

Matthew is b abt 1815 and wit at wedding is Emmanuel Tromans
There is that Emmanuel Tromans below b abt 1815 is it the same one...?

also Hannah Sidaways wit at wedding is a Samuel TRomans think bro to sister Charlotte Sidaway
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =930320207

and bro Thomas Sidaway married True Shaw
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=85564788

so the name Shaw and Tromans are there in the Sidaway and Raybould marriage...
it needs more though

Q who is Emmanuel Tromans
how does Sarah Link in

Q do Sarah Tromans
and
Oliver Shaw link to

True Shaw
and
Samuel TRomans



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Wit on marriage of Enos Mantle and Eudora Woodall


<br>26 Aug 1883 St Luke Cradley Heath<br>
Enos Mantle -22 -bach- Machinist -Reddall Hill -Father -George Mantle (Deceased) Tailor<br>
Eudora Woodall- 21 -spin -Reddall Hill -Father Samuel Woodall -Chain Maker <br>
Wit;Oliver Shaw /Sarah Elizabeth Shaw<br><br>



1881
SHAW Oliver TROMANS Sarah Stourbridge, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 006/001/177

1891
56 Congreaves Road, Rowley
Emanuel Tromans 76 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
William Tromans 16 - grandson - Engine fitter apprentice
Oliver Shaw 30 - Engine fitter - b Dudley
Sarah Shaw 28 - Chainmaker
Horace Shaw 6
Bertie Shaw 2
others b Rowley

1901
Spion cottage, Congreaves Road, Rowley
Oliver Shaw 40 - Fitter machine - b Netherton
Sarah Shaw 38
Horace Shaw 16 - Add coome? shackle maker
Bertie Shaw 12
May Shaw 7
Ewart Shaw 3
Doris Shaw 2
Clarice Shaw 4 months
others b Rowley

[Northern Lass]

Marriage added for look up

but how does she link to the Tromans
and
who on the Shaws does he link to

[peterd]

1881 56 Club Building Rowley Regis, Stafford


Emanuel TROMANS Head M Male 66 Dudley, Worcester, England Chain Maker
Sarah TROMANS Wife M Female 71 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

[peterd]

poss marriage extracted

Immanuel Troman
Sarah Westwood
Marriage: 16 DEC 1838 Kingswinford, Stafford


TROMAN * Immanuel WESTWOOD Sarah 1838 Wordsley, Holy Trinity West Midlands Dudley Register Office 018/001/153

[peterd]

1891 census this might be william and sarah ?



1881 66 Club Building Rowley Regis, Stafford

Solomon TROMANS 40 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Horse Driver (Miner)
Martha TROMANS 38 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Sarah C. TROMANS 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
William TROMANS 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar

[Northern Lass]

added that for Look up

there is something here but I can't see it

Oliver Shaw and wife sarah Tromans living with Emamuel on census in 1891
not sure how he connects to Sarah

Tromans and Shaws linking to Hannah Sidaway
Hannah sidaway marries Jesse Raybould (wit samuel troman prob bro in law- Shaws in family- area good Cradley heath- age for hannah good need death cert)
Jesse has dau emma
Emma Raybould marries George Mantle
have enos
enos marries and wits at wedding are Oliver shaw and Sarah tromans

[peterd]

poss marriage

TROWMANS Solomon PRIEST Martha 1862 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/021/160

SOLOMON TROWMANS
MARTHA PRIEST
Marriage: 25 DEC 1862 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

[Northern Lass]

1891 census this might be william and sarah ?



1881 66 Club Building Rowley Regis, Stafford

Solomon TROMANS 40 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Horse Driver (Miner)
Martha TROMANS 38 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Sarah C. TROMANS 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
William TROMANS 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar

could be think that could well be
William

so is emanuel father of Solomon
can anyone see this lot tromans lot on bcc

1891
56 Congreaves Road, Rowley
Emanuel Tromans 76 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
William Tromans 16 - grandson - Engine fitter apprentice
Oliver Shaw 30 - Engine fitter - b Dudley
Sarah Shaw 28 - Chainmaker
Horace Shaw 6
Bertie Shaw 2
others b Rowley

[peterd]

think that marriage for solomon and martha will tell us unless any one can find earlier census

[Northern Lass]

and why is he wit at Matthew Tromans wedding
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =848059956

[peterd]

poss cousin or even brother we dont have on ?

[FarSide]

1841
Old Fields, Rowley
Thomas Hollaway 65 - Lab - n b in c
Emanuel Truman 25 - Nailer - n b in c
Sarah Truman 30
David Truman 1
Soloman Truman 6 Mo
others b in c

Next door
Samuel Westwood 65 - Ind - y b in c
Elizabeth Westwood 65 - n b in c


1851 (looks like Tromas on image)
Club Building, Rowley
Emanuel Thomas 36 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
Sarah Thomas 42
David Thomas 11 - Chainmaker
Soloman Thomas 10
Rowland Thomas 8
William Thomas 2
others b Rowley

1861
Cradley Heath, Rowley
Emmanuel Tromans 46 - Chain manufacturer - b Dudley
Sarah Tromans 52
David Tromans 21 - Chainmaker
Solomon Tromans 20 - Carter ag? lab
others b Rowley

1871
Club Building, Rowley
Emmanuel Tromans 56 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
Sarah Tromans 61 - b Rowley

1881 56 Club Building Rowley Regis, Stafford

Emanuel TROMANS Head M Male 66 Dudley, Worcester, England Chain Maker
Sarah TROMANS Wife M Female 71 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

[quote
1891
56 Congreaves Road, Rowley
Emanuel Tromans 76 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
William Tromans 16 - grandson - Engine fitter apprentice
Oliver Shaw 30 - Engine fitter - b Dudley
Sarah Shaw 28 - Chainmaker
Horace Shaw 6
Bertie Shaw 2
others b Rowley[/quote]

Burial - St Lukes, Cradley
23 Jan 1898 Emmanuel Tromans, 56 Congreaves Road, 82 years.

[Northern Lass]

So he is son of Emmanuel

so can anyone see any of these on Bcc

trying to find a connection to link em all to and we can add em
I cant see emmanuel or solomon

[FarSide]

1841
Old Fields, Rowley
Thomas Hollaway 65 - Lab - n b in c
Emanuel Truman 25 - Nailer - n b in c
Sarah Truman 30 David Truman 1
Soloman Truman 6 Mo
others b in c

Next door
Samuel Westwood 65 - Ind - y b in c
Elizabeth Westwood 65 - n b in c

Extracted
SARAH WESTWOOD
Christening: 23 OCT 1808 Cradley, Worcester
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL WESTWOOD
Mother: ELIZABETH

[Northern Lass]

Yes agree

Emmanuel marries Sarah Westwood...look up down
son Solomon marries Martha...look up down
Dau Sarah marries Oliver Shaw ...look up down

but I cant believe none are on Bcc....
and just wondered if someone can have a look in case I missed em