I have the death certificate for Wm Worton who died Five Ways Cradley Heath aged 81 in 1844. This is Wm from Cradley. He died at the home of Samuel Worton Five Ways. Here is the link:-
I wonder if it is the Samuel you have born about 1816 He was the only Samuel I could find living at Five Ways Cradley Heath in 1841. If it is the same Samuel, how was he connected to William born and bread Cradley Samuel as far as we know was not William's son. Any ideas anyone Linell.
linell wrote:I have the death certificate for Wm Worton who died Five Ways Cradley Heath aged 81 in 1844. This is Wm from Cradley. He died at the home of Samuel Worton Five Ways. Here is the link:-
I wonder if it is the Samuel you have born about 1816 He was the only Samuel I could find living at Five Ways Cradley Heath in 1841. If it is the same Samuel, how was he connected to William born and bread Cradley Samuel as far as we know was not William's son. Any ideas anyone Linell.
Could William have been Samuel's grandfather
Submitted ISRAEL WORTON Christening: 21 NOV 1790 Halesowen, Worcester Parents: Father: WILLIAM WORTON Mother: SARAH
Poss marriage ST.THOMAS,DUDLEY 14 Jul 1824 Samuel Worton B Ann Barrell S Witness Eda Hasson, S Paskin
1841 Cradley Bridge to Fiveways Saml Whorton 30 - Nailer Ann Whorton 30 Isiah Whorton 50 (Israel) Thos Mansell 15 Lenora Mansell 14 all n b in c
1851 5 ways, Cradley heath Samuel Worton 46 Ann Worton 42 Israel Worton 60 - Wid all b Rowley, all Nailmakers
1861 Cradley Road, Rowley Samuel Whorton 53 - Bulldog Grinker? iron Ann Whorton 52 Daniel Whorton 71 - Father - Wid (Israel if you close one eye and squint) Samuel Luckock 35 - Lodger - Mason - b West Brom others b Cradley
1871 Cradley Road, Rowley Samuel Wertin 60 - Labourer - b Cradley Ann Wertin 58 - b Corley, Salop Worton on image
1881 16 Cradley Road Samuel Worton 70 - Labourer At Iron Work - b Cradley Ann Worton 68 - b Salop Coke? hills
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Lenora Mansell 14 on the 1841 Poss - Late Baptisms 7 Apr 1833 Lennora Mansell, do Jeremiah & Ann Mansell, Cradley, Bayonet forger next entry same day Simeon, so Jeremiah & Ann Mansell, Cradley, Bayonet forger
That's all a brilliant find FS, thanks very much. Will have a look later, I have a new PC and not got any of my files uploaded yet, will have a good look at it later, many thanks from Linell.
Israel Worton born about 1790 Married Ann Mansell. Son Samuel born about 1812 - 1816 (all ages seem to be way off on each Census) Married another Ann (could be Ann widow of Jeremiah Mansell,) they had children Rueben 1820 - 1820 born and buried Cradley (a Worton family name) Lucy born Cradley 1821, Leonora born Cradley 1833, Simeon born and buried Cradley 1833 - 1833.
Samuel and Ann are on the Census at different times with Israel Worton Samuel's father, and Leonora Mansell daughter of Jeremiah and Ann.
Samuel is present at death of Wm Worton in Cradley Heath 1844.
What do you think Pete. I will try and find a death for Jeremiah Mansell.
Linell.
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There are a couple of deaths for a Jeremiah Mansell Stourbridge Registration in 1845 and 1848. No good to us, we need one who died before 1841. Did find a Cradley Burial in 1831 for a Jeremiah aged 6, he could be another one of Jeremiah and Ann's children. Also found a burial for a Wm Worton aged 89 11.10.1829.
Hi NL, I think we have the wrong Israel Worton Married to Harriet Wooldridge.
Should be this line:- High Park Cradley we have four brothers:-
William born about 1795 Married Mary Forrest 1841 they have Temperance aged 19, Sarah 17, Betsey 15, David 13 and Wm 4.
John born about 1800 - 1840 Married Jane Hodgetts 26.9.1814 Old Swinford (John died Colley Gate, I have the certificate, High Park was in the Colley Gate area,) they had James 1815, William 1817, Sarah 1819, Mary 1820, Rueben 1822, Jane 1824, Mary Ann 1825. Wm aged 23, Mary aged 20, Ruben aged 18, and Jane aged 14, are all in High Park 1841, no parents.
Joseph aged 35 in High Park 1841 with children Israel 18, Zechariah 16, Honor 14. Ann 12. Mother Ann presume deceased.
Then there is Israel with wife Harriet 1841 High Park with children Benjamin 17, William 15, Esther 15, Solomon 13, John 10, Patience 7, Ono 4, Comfort 2.
Then in Lyde Green Cradley, which is the other side of Cradley to High Park we have:-
William aged 75 in 1841 (he is the one who dies in 1844, at 5 Ways Cradley Heath with Samuel) he is the son of Israel Worton and Elizabeth Cox. He Married Sarah Naile. Their sons were Ruben 1804, Joseph 1804, and Israel 1790. 2nd Wife Mary aged 55 Rueben aged 35 Sarah Wife 30 Ann 9 Joseph 6 Israel 4 Wm 2
I think this is the Israel who Married Ann Mansell and had son Samuel from 5 Ways. HTH from Linell.
WORTON, Israel Head Married M 48 1803 Nail Forger Cradley Worcestershire WORTON, Harriot Wife Married F 43 1808 Nail Forger Oldswinton Worcestershire WORTON, Benjn Son Unmarried M 27 1824 Nail Forger Oldswinton Worcestershire WORTON, Esther Daughter Unmarried F 25 1826 Nail Forger Oldswinton Worcestershire WORTON, Solomon Son Unmarried M 22 1829 Nail Forger Oldswinton Worcestershire WORTON, John Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Nail Forger Oldswinton Worcestershire WORTON, Patience Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834 Nail Forger Oldswinton Worcestershire WORTON, Ono Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Nail Forger Oldswinton Worcestershire WORTON, Comfort Daughter Unmarried F 12 1839 At Home Cradley Worcestershire WORTON, Ann Daughter F 9 1842 At Home Cradley Worcestershire WORTON, Thomas Son M 7 1844 At Home Cradley Worcestershire WORTON, Samuel Son M 5 1846 At Home Cradley Worcestershire WORTON, Rosanna Daughter F 2 1849 At Home Cradley Worcestershire WORTON, Fanny Daughter F 0 (3 MOS) 1851 At Home Cradley Worcestershire WORTON, Mercy F 1 1850 Kingswinford Staffordshire
1851 High Park Cradley Wm Worton HD M 56 Nail Forger Cradley Mary Wife 62 Cradley David Son U 23 Nail Forger Cradley
Next door Betsey Harper Daughter of Wm and Mary above
Next door is then Israel HD M 29 Horse Nail Maker born OS Eliza Wife 22 Nailer OS Zachariah Worton LG U 27 Horse Nail Maker born OS (brother of Israel sons of Joseph born 1805 and an Ann)
1850 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference WARTON Israel WOLDRIDGE Eliza Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/010/203
He was the only Samuel I could find living at Five Ways Cradley Heath in 1841. If it is the same Samuel, how was he connected to William born and bread Cradley 
