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Smart / Portman Archieve

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right edward portman poss son of james and hannah

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is this him on census

1861 Albert Mews, Middlesbough

Edward Portman 33? tender Iron Works, Netherton, Worcestershire
Sarah Portman 32 Netherton, Worcestershire


1871 Bread St, Fletton, Huntingdonshire

Edward Portman 42 foreman ? Netherton, Worcestershire
Sarah Portman 41 Netherton, Worcestershire
James Ragan 26 Boarder
Sarah Ragan 18 Boarder
James Christian 22 Boarder
Alice Christian 23 Boarder


1881 40 Dundas Mews Middlesbrough, York,


Edward PORTMAN 53 Netherton, Worcester, Capola Tenter (Iron)
Sarah PORTMAN 53 Netherton, Worcester,
Mary A. RAGAN Neice 9 Peterboro, Northampton, Scholar
James SMART Cousin M 64 Netherton, Worcester, Foundry Labourer (Iron)



so mary A poss james and sarah kid from 1871

Marriages Dec 1870
BIRCH Sarah Peterbro' 3b 461
Harris Augusta Peterbro' 3b 461
Ragan James Peterboro 3b 461
RICHMOND Christopher Peterbro' 3b 461





so if james smart is a cousin is he one or related to rosannah smart who married james portman ? (his brother thomas son)


only one smart census on can we find any others

1871 8 Baptist End Road Netherton Dudley

Joseph Smart 70 Coal Miner Born Dudley
Sarah Smart Wife 68 Born Dudley
James Portman 26 Lodger Coal Miner Born Dudley
Rosannah Portman Wife 24 Born Dudley
Thomas Portman Son 4 Scholar Born Dudley



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marriage in 1847 ?

PORTMAN Edward DAVIS Lavinia 1847 Dudley, St Edmund West Midlands Dudley Register Office 201/001/166

ive put this on for look up

also this one poss 2nd wife ?

Marriages Sep 1853

ABBOTT Ann Wellington Sp 6a 1114
Brewer William Wellington Sh 6a 1114
Clark Sarah Wellington Sp 6a 1114
Portman Edward Wellington Sh 6a 1114
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can any one find me the 1851 census please for edward and lavinia
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Found this : a few more portmans on same page.

1851 Northfield Road Dudley

Hannah Portman 65 head wid
Edward Portman 74 son labourer Imsge age is 24 yrs
Solomon Portman 22 son nailer

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Annie wrote:Found this : a few more portmans on same page.

1851 Northfield Road Dudley

Hannah Portman 65 head wid
Edward Portman 74 son labourer Imsge age is 24 yrs
Solomon Portman 22 son nailer

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so that lavinia cant be his wife does it say unmarried ?
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1851 Edward is unmarried
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kdw wrote:1851 Edward is unmarried


Bet to it KDW. :grin:

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Sorry Peterd can't find a Lavinia Portman with or without Edward.

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edward must of died she remarried

Levinia Portman
Father: Will. Davis

Spouse: Thomas Smith
Father: Jno. Smith

Marriage: 28 NOV 1859 Brierley Hill, Stafford

is lavinia smith on the 1861 census with any portman kids ?
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death

PORTMAN Edward F 1857 - Dudley West Midlands Dudley Register Office DUD/037/333
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any one find this guy from 1881 census in any other censuses ?

James SMART Cousin M 64 Netherton, Worcester, Foundry Labourer
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Found these two Lavinia with a Thomas

1861 Green Street Paddington
Thomas Smith 28 head marr Caru???
Lavinia Smith 26 wife marr Shenley Hill Herefordshire
Thomas Smith 4 son Middlesex
Mark Smith 6 Mo son Middlesex



1861 Old Hill Dudley
Thomas Smith 35 head marr Bricklayers Lab Rowley
Levinia Smith 37 wife marr Dudley

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A few James Smarts.

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1851 Netherton Hill Dudley
James Smart 35 head marr labourer Netherton
Eliza Smart 43 wife marr Harfordshire
Betsy Smart 12 dau nailer Netherton
Mary Smart 4 Mo dau netherton
George Wilson 23 visitor


1861 Netherton Hill DudleyJames Smart 45 head marr labourer
Eliza Smart 53 wife marr
Mary Smart 10 dau Nurse ( looks like but can't be at age 10)
Thomas Parsons 23 son in law marr Furnceman
Betsey Parsons 22 dau
Edward Parsons 11 Mo grandson
All born Nerthton

1871 Pierson Street North OrmesbyThomas Parsons 33 head marr Lab
Betsy Parsons 32 wife marr
Edward Parsons 10 son scholar
James Smart 55 Boarder Um labourer

1881
Edward Portman 53
Sarah Portman 53
Mary A. Ragan 9
James Smart 64 can only find this one so far in 1881


1901 Bridgenorth Shropshire
James Smart 82 Wid inmate Pauper Casual Labourer Nertherton
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this can be archieve till look up
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