*Arc tbc* ----Joseph Dimmock

[grangers14]

1851 Census
New Town, Rowley Regis
Phebey Woodhall, head, W, 52,
Elizabeth, daur, 19, Trace Maker,
Joseph, son, 16, Trace Maker
Caroline, daur, 11,
Mary Ann, niece, 27, Trace Maker
All born Rowley

Same page,
Previous entry,
Samuel Woodhall, head, 26, chain maker,
Parthanah, wife, 26, Hurst, Worcestershire
William H, son, 3,
Samuel, son, 2,
All others born Rowley

[grangers14]

And!
1841 Census
New Town, Rowley Regis
Joseph Woodhall, 40, chain maker.
Phebe, 40, Chain Maker
Esucine(? its male) 15, Chain Maker
Eliza, 15, Chain Maker
Elizabeth, 9, Chain Maker
Joseph, 7, Chain Maker
Caroline, 1,

[grangers14]

Next door is Tromans, will add because may be connected
John Tromans, 25, ?
Elizabeth, 25,
George, 7,
Elizabeth, 5,
Hannah, 4,
Mary, 2,
Edwin, 10 months

then,
William Woodhall, 45, Chain Maker
Mary, 40,
Samuel, 15, Chain Maker
Mary, 14,
Thomas, 9,
Felix, 4,
Alexander, 1,

Next to them,
James Totney? 35, Stone Miner, Not born County
Prudence, 35,
John, 3, Not born County
William, 1
/Joseph Woodhall, 80, Ind
Robert Banford? 40, Stone Miner, Not born County
Joseph Prichists? Stone Miner,Not born County
Jasseral? Bradney, 20, Chain Maker, Not born County

[Northern Lass]

I am lost on this....

Ok I am ducking out on this thread...can whoever is running with this see what they think
and if it is the one on can we connect and add all detail pls
and
if it needs a look up (although that one looks good to me)
stick it on

[grangers14]

Sorry NL if Ive confused you.

Doug!

Can you confirm this is the right one?

1861 Census
New Town, Rowley Regis
Joseph Dimmick, head, 31, Chain Maker, Dudley Wood
Elizabeth, wife, 28,
William, son, 8,
Mary Ann, daur, 6
Joseph, son, 4
All others born Rowley

If it is then the families next door to each other are, on the 1861 Census,

The house previous
Phebe Woodall, head, W, 63, chain maker
Caroline, daur, 21
All born Rowley

Previous page has,
Alexander Woodhall, head, 21, chain maker
Ellen, wife, 21, chain maker
William, son,
Alexander, son, 3 months
All born Rowley

Then the families match 1851 and 1841 with a possible few connections to each other!
Jo

[Pudsey to Howard]

where did you get that marriage from Doug
that would work wouldn't it

Wm Dimmock and Diana another son Joseph

do you know the kids for Wm and diana

As Transcibed by Roger Boswell --Except William Dimock was not deceased and Wit was Mary Ann Mole

Got the info from this site:

http://uk-transcriptions.accessgenealog ... Dudley.htm

Definitely shows William as deceased.

[Pudsey to Howard]

Hi

Joseph & William appear to have a possible sibling in Louisa, who's living with them at the home of their grandparents [Samuel & Mary Yardley] in 1841 - this info is in the notes for Joseph. Haven't been able to confirm her parentage as yet - doesn't seem to be on the IGI - can't find her in 1851 - possible death in 1854 on freeBMD.

Doug

PS In regard to william I believe he was christened twice - the one at Particular Baptist [where all his grandparents kids were christened - the other:

20 MAR 1831 Wesleyan Chapel, Dudley, Worcester, England - C052071 [extracted] - parents William & Diana

I'd say the grandparents were fairly staunch Baptists!

[Northern Lass]

1851 Census
New Town, Rowley Regis
Phebey Woodhall, head, W, 52,
Elizabeth, daur, 19, Trace Maker,
Joseph, son, 16, Trace Maker
Caroline, daur, 11,
Mary Ann, niece, 27, Trace Maker
All born Rowley

Same page,
Previous entry,
Samuel Woodhall, head, 26, chain maker,
Parthanah, wife, 26, Hurst, Worcestershire
William H, son, 3,
Samuel, son, 2,
All others born Rowley

So is this Elizabeth Woodall then in 1851 with mother Phebe?

this is submitted
but that is Joseph Dimmock and Elizabeth On census
then phebe is next to them?

JOSEPH WOODALL Marriages:
Spouse: PHEBE BRADNEY Family
Marriage: 28 MAR 1824 Dudley, Worcester, England



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[Northern Lass]

Jo can you sort this one and connect up if you think it is the same one?

[grangers14]

I do think this is Elizabeth. She is living nextdoor to Phebe when she was married, New Town is the address back to 1841 census and Father, Joseph.
I'll go back through and check too.
Jo

[Northern Lass]

I agree Jo

I think we need to connect and if you can add all relevant detail that would be brill

[rockyfowler]

Hi

In regard to Elizabeth Unknown married to Joseph Dimmock born abt 1829 on BCC

I've found the following marriage:

1852 DIMOCK Joseph WOODALL Elizabeth Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/012/54

Which links to:

1852 Joseph Dimock F B Chain Maker Dudley William Dimock (Dec) Miner
26 Sep Elizabeth Woodall F S Dudley Joseph Woodall (Dec) Chain Maker
Witness John Homer, Mary Ann

Elizabeth was born at either Rowley Regis or Cradley Heath somewhere between 1831 and 1833 [it varies on different census records post her marriage to Joseph].

Quite right about dec it`s a bit messy the layout of the transcribing!Still we have to be gratefull to Roger for taking the time

[grangers14]

Looking Closely on the 1861 census it looks like Joseph Dimmock is actually living in the same house as Phebe. There is no entry in the Houses boxes for his name all other entries have.
Also I have only added Unknown for the male on the 1841 census for now, I have a feeling that this may be Israel Bradney Woodhall, he was married in 1844. I'll see if I can find a bit more out.
Jo

[grangers14]

The 1871 census Shows Phebe and Caroline in the same household as Joseph Dimmock, shall I add them to the census info on BCC, they are not on it.
Jo

[Northern Lass]

Yes please

so we can connect up Elizabeth?
can you do that too pls Jo