Need help with these Fletchers

[linell]

Can't make sense of this, can everyone and anyone have a look and see what I am missing please Here is the link:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =779810443

We have Matthew Fletcher aged 20, Wife Mary aged 20 son John Fletcher aged 1 in Spring Mire Dudley 1841.

Here they are in Woodside Dudley 1861:
Matthew Fletcher HD 43 Coal Miner born Netherton
Mary Wife 39 Netherton
John Son 21 Dudley
Joseph Son 19 Dudley
Wm Son 16 Dudley
Edward Son 13 Dudley
Rebecca DA 10 Dudley
Alice DA 7 RR
Eli Son 5 RR
Ellen DA 3 Dudley

All good so far, but then there is this for 1851

Spring Mire Dudley
Matthew Fletcher HD 45
Mary Wife 45
Job Son 16
Elizabeth DA 9
Henry Son 11
John Son 4


Where do those children come from Matthew and Mary have the wrong ages. I am at a loss as what to enter for the children of Matthew and Mary. I checked Ancestry, Find My Past and S&N they all have the same information. Any ideas anyone Linell.

[Maths girl]

There is this pair in 1861

1861 Waterloo Street New Dock, Dudley
FLETCHER, Mathew Head Married M 55 1806 Coal Miner Kingswinford Staffordshire
FLETCHER, Mary Wife Married F 56 1805 Dudley Worcestershire
HUMPIDGE, Betsey Daughter In Law Unmarried F 17 1844 Nailor Dudley Worcestershire

They match the ages of

1851 Spring Mire Dudley
Matthew Fletcher HD 45
Mary Wife 45
Job Son 16
Elizabeth DA 9
Henry Son 11
John Son 4

What are the occupations in 1851 and where are the younger sons in 1861?

1871 Swan Street Court, Dudley
FLETCHER, Mathew Head M 68 1803 Worcestershire
FLETCHER, Mary Wife F 50 1821 Worcestershire

[Maths girl]

1851 Cinder Bank, Dudley
FLETCHER, Matthew Head Married M 27 1824 Coal Miner Dudley Worcestershire
FLETCHER, Mary Wife Married F 25 1826 Dress Maker Dudley Worcestershire
FLETCHER, Francis Son M 2 1849 Dudley Worcestershire
FLETCHER, Matthew Son M 1 1850 Dudley Worcestershire
BOOT, Sarah Servant F 16 1835 General Servt DudleyWorcestershire

[Maths girl]

Here they are in Woodside Dudley 1861:
Matthew Fletcher HD 43 Coal Miner born Netherton
Mary Wife 39 Netherton
John Son 21 Dudley
Joseph Son 19 Dudley
Wm Son 16 Dudley
Edward Son 13 Dudley
Rebecca DA 10 Dudley
Alice DA 7 RR
Eli Son 5 RR
Ellen DA 3 Dudley
FMP has Mathew 3mths in this group too
All good so far, but then there is this for 1851

Linell.

[peterd]

who are these then ?

1881; 19 St Thomas St Dudley, Worcester

Matthew FLETCHER 57 Dudley, Worcester, Colliery Manager (Mine Sev)
Mary FLETCHER 55 Dudley, Worcester, Wife (Ser)
Mary J. FLETCHER 25 Dudley, Worcester,
Matthew FLETCHER 24 Dudley, Worcester, Mining Surveyor (Ser)
Lucy FLETCHER 19 Dudley, Worcester,
Annie FLETCHER 17 Dudley, Worcester,
Frederick J. FLETCHER 15 Dudley, Worcester, Scholar
Sarah BOOT Servt 23 Dudley, Worcester, Servt Domestic


and these ?

1881 Bower Lane, Quarry Bank, Kingswinford, Stafford,

Matthew FLETCHER 63 Atherton, Worcester, Coal Miner
Mary FLETCHER 59 Atherton, Worcester, Wife
Matthew FLETCHER 18 Holly Hall, Worcester, Coal Miner
Mary FLETCHER 17 Holly Hall, Worcester, Nailer

[Jimmy]

MATTHEW FLETCHER.
MARY ROUND.
Marriage, 17 AUG 1845. Clent, Worcester.

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Matthew Fletcher.
Father: John Fletcher.

Mary Humprige.
Father: John Southall.

Marriage, 25 DEC 1843. Rowley Regis, Stafford.

[Maths girl]

There is this pair in 1861

1861 Waterloo Street New Dock, Dudley
FLETCHER, Mathew Head Married M 55 1806 Coal Miner Kingswinford Staffordshire
FLETCHER, Mary Wife Married F 56 1805 Dudley Worcestershire
HUMPIDGE, Betsey Daughter In Law Unmarried F 17 1844 Nailor Dudley Worcestershire

They match the ages of

1851 Spring Mire Dudley
Matthew Fletcher HD 45
Mary Wife 45
Job Son 16
Elizabeth DA 9
Henry Son 11
John Son 4

What are the occupations in 1851 and where are the younger sons in 1861?

1871 Swan Street Court, Dudley
FLETCHER, Mathew Head M 68 1803 Worcestershire
FLETCHER, Mary Wife F 50 1821 Worcestershire

This marriage from Jimmy fits the above presumably

Matthew Fletcher.
Father: John Fletcher.

Mary Humprige.
Father: John Southall.

Marriage, 25 DEC 1843. Rowley Regis, Stafford.

[Jimmy]

1871 as three Matthew with a wife Mary in Dudley.

Mary Fletcher, abt 1821.

Mary Fletcher. abt 1822.

Mary Fletcher. abt 1826.

Mathew Fletcher. abt 1803

Matthew Fletcher. abt 1813.

Matthew Fletcher. abt 1824.

[linell]

Thanks for the input everyone, yes there are two lots of Matthew's and Mary's. I suppose this lot found by Maths Girl :-

1861 Waterloo Street New Dock, Dudley
FLETCHER, Mathew Head Married M 55 1806 Coal Miner Kingswinford Staffordshire
FLETCHER, Mary Wife Married F 56 1805 Dudley Worcestershire
HUMPIDGE, Betsey Daughter In Law Unmarried F 17 1844 Nailor Dudley Worcestershire

Could be the ones I found in 1851 Spring Mire with sons Job and Henry

But then my Matthew Mary and John were in Spring Mire in 1841

I will have another look at it all tomorrow, many thanks from Linell.

Forgot to say they are all Miners all born Dudley so not much help there

[linell]

Ok this is completed for now, have removed the 1851 information from BCC. I presume the Matthew and Mary aged 45 in 1851 are another family Many thanks from Linell.