COMPLETED.......Rose/Law/Portman/Law connection

[mumbles]

Another Joseph Rose born Rowley Village:-

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =542322533

But some strange changes of surname down the line as daughter Sarah Rose marries a Abraham Portman who dies young but she has children by lodger Levi Law 7-9 years younger than her. Childrens names change between Law and Portman on Census and as they marry.
Levi then goes on to marry at age 72 to a woman of 57.
Problem area is that although Census shows a Phyliss Portman or Phyliss Law born c.1857 ( no sign of a Phyliss Law Phyliss Portman but a Martha Portman found on freeBMD born 1858)or it would appear that she marries a George Smith as Martha Portman and Census continues to note as Marttha in 1881 and 1891.
I would just like someone to check what I have entered to see if it makes sense.

[mumbles]

These Laws connect to Neville Bastable via Jane Lucretia Bastable who narried both Joseph Law and Samuel Shaw.

[Northern Lass]

can we have a look at this and help mumbles pls
I have made it a sticky

[mallosa]

Marriage 1846
PORTMAN Abraham ROSE Sarah Dudley, St Thomas 204/007/424

1851: Village, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
Joseph Rose 56 Head Nailer
Martha Rose 51 Wife Nailer
Abraham Portman 25 Inmate M Coalminer Titford, Worcestershire
Sarah Portman 22 Inmate M Nailer
Richard Portman 2 Inmate
Samuel Portman 1 Inmate
(others born Rowley Regis)

1861: Village, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
Sarah Portman 35 Head Wid Nailer
Richard Portman 13 Son Coalminer
Samuel Portman 10 Son
Phillis Portman 3 Dau
Joseph Portman 11 Mo Son
Leny Law 24 Lodger U
(all born Rowley Regis)

Marriage 1861
LAW Levi PORTMAN Sarah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/020/254

1871: Village, Rowley Regis
Levi Law 33 Head Huckster
Sarah Law 40 Wife
Joseph Law 10 Son
Phillis Law 14 Dau
Samuel Portman 22 Step Son Poss Marriage 1871: PORTMAN Samuel ADAMS Ellen Dudley, St Thomas 204/028/287
(all born Rowley Regis)

1881: 84 The Village, Rowley Regis
Levi Law 45 Head Coal Dealer
Sarah Law 55 Wife Nailmaker

1891: 84 The Village, Rowley Regis
Lene (Levi on the image) Law 53 Lab on the Road
Sarah Law 64 Nailer
George Smith 34 Son in Law Gas Fitting maker - Poss Marriage 1877: SMITH George PORTMAN Martha Dudley, St Thomas 204/034/248
Martha Law 34 Dau Nailer
Joseph Smith 12 Grd Son Stone Breaker?
Richard Smith 10 Grd Son
Ernest Smith 7 Grd Son
(all born Rowley Regis)

1901: 84 The Village, Rowley Regis
Levi Law 62 Head Lab on the Road
Sarah Law 73 Wife

[linell]

I have this family, must connect somewhere

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =926041182

Linell.

[mumbles]

I have inserted all those details and a lot more but I want someone to check and agree what I have noted as relationship of Martha Portman ( i.e. her being Phyliss Portman/Law)
I agree Linell that your earlier Levi Law must be related but could not find connection.

[kdw]

This could be Levis parents

JAMES LAW
Marriages:
Spouse: AMELIA MARY DUDFIELD OR BEDDOE Family
Marriage: 23 APR 1840 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London, England


1851 Village Rowley Regis
Amelia Law Head U 33 Born London
Levi Law Son 14 Coal Miner Born Rowley Regis
Elijah Law Son 7 Born Rowley Regis
Joseph Law Son 4 Born Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Law Daur. 1 Born Rowley Regis

[Northern Lass]

So we could look that marriage up
1877
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PORTMAN Martha SMITH George Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/034/248


see if father is Levi

could Phyllis be middle name?
as you say no Phyllis but there is a Martha

odd

[mumbles]

Thanks kdw,
Your Amelia has led to following:-
1841 Census Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Josiah Ruston Nailer
Obadiah Ruston 30 Nailer
Lucy Rolinson 30 Nailer
John Rolinson 8
Stephen Rolinson 6
Jonah Rolinson 4
Ann Rolinson 2
Mary Law 20 not born Staffs.
Levi Law 4
Hannah Lowe 15
Rest born Staffs.

1871 Census Blackheath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Obediah Ruston Head 65
Mary Ruston wife 55
Elijah Law Boarder 26
Mary A. Law Boarder 21
Lizzy Law Boarder 16
Samuel Law Boarder 2
All Nailors except Samuel and all born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1881 Census 62 Hawes Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Obadiah Ruston Head 76 no occupation
Omelia Ruston wife 64 no occupation born London Middlesex
Elijah Law stepson 37 Nail Maker born Dudley Worcs.
Joseph Law stepson 34 married Rivet Maker
Eliza Law Stepdaughter 23 married Nail Maker
Obadiah Law Grd.son 0
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

and Obadiah Ruston married Amelia A. Law in St.Giles RR in 1855

[mumbles]

I am getting closer to a connection between the two Law families as two Joseph Laws researching were married in same year at same Church:-
LAW Joseph BASTABLE Jane Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/035/353 1879
LAW Joseph HILL Eliza Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/035/221 1879
I will post for look up but it is possible latter one will show no father

[mumbles]

THe Eliza Hill could be this one:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =825947039

[Northern Lass]

Mumbles add this for look up too
or do you have it?


1877
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PORTMAN Martha SMITH George Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/034/248

[mumbles]

Have added NL

[Northern Lass]

do you want this arch pending look ups
or leave to run longer?

[mumbles]

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