*Arc tbc* --Portmanns...

[Northern Lass]

So that looks like a connection then
Solomon Portman and sister Ann Portman
niece Sophia Portman

surely we can connect up?

[Northern Lass]

1841 northfield rd

James Portman 25 miner
Sarah Portman 25
James Portman 5
Rosanna Portman 3
Sarah Portman 1

first james married sarah billingham we have

JAMES PORTMAN
SARAH BILLINGHAM
Marriage: 10 MAR 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

but did his son marry a smart ? Put on for look up

JAMES PORTMAN
ROSEANNA SMART
Marriage: 18 JUN 1866 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

No Pete it is on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =441713767

he married a Mary Tickle all census and marriage info on there!

[Northern Lass]

was there a bapt for Solomon
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =190655782

I think we can add Ann Portman to that family
b 1811

ANN PORTMAN
Christening: 10 MAR 1811 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

Father: JAMES PORTMAN
Mother: ANN

[peterd]

james edwards christening

JAMES EDWARD PORTMAN
Birth: 25 OCT 1851
Christening: 08 FEB 1852 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

Father: SOLOMON PORTMAN
Mother: SOPHIA

[peterd]

1871; 35 cradley rd, Dudley

Soloman Portman 42 Nail forger
Sophia Portman 42
James E Portman 19 labourer in iron works
Returah A Portman 16 daug domestic worker

all born dudley

what is her proper name any one find her


solomon all on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =459792531

[Northern Lass]

can you add those marriages in pete for Sophia and Esther too
they look good

is it Keturah?

[Northern Lass]

I am linking ann b 1811 to this lot
any objections holla

[kdw]

1854
PORTMAN Keturah A F Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/055/250

[peterd]

this might be her


1861 Cradley rd Dudley

Susan Fletcher 60 wid Netherton, Worcestershire
Julia Fletcher 23
Emily Fletcher 26
Sarah Fletcher 18
Edward Fletcher 32
Ann Portman 5 g daug
Robert Brown 3 g son
Esther Garlin 78 mother Gloucestershire,
Thomas Garlin 42 son labourer, Gloucestershire
George Garlin 38 son labourer, Gloucestershire,

rest born netherton

any earlier census to find sophia father ?

[Northern Lass]

SOPHIA FLETCHER
Birth: 03 SEP 1829

Christening: 02 JUN 1842 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: EDWARD FLETCHER
Mother: SUSANNAH
Extracted

[Northern Lass]

Changed Fletcher to Unknown as that was her married name

is she Simkiss?
there is a submitted 1819 marriage Kingswinford

mother is Garlin

[Northern Lass]

Thomas GARLAND
Christening: 04 MAY 1800 Mangotsfield, Gloucester,
Parents:
Father: Thomas GARLAND
Mother: Hester Johnson Record submitted

dob on census about 1819 so dunno on this one

[kdw]

1841 Halesowen Road Dudley
Edward Fletcher 45 No Occupation Not born in County
Susannah Fletcher 40
Sophia Fletcher 11
Elchna Fletcher 9
Mishack Fletcher 7
Emily Fletcher 2
Selena Fletcher 4
All others born in county

1851 Primrose Hill Dudley
Susan Fletcher Head Widow 48 Proprietor of Houses + Land
Edward Fletcher Son 23 Miner
Sophia Fletcher Daur. 21
Elihu Fletcher Son 17 Miner
Selina Fletcher Daur. 13
James Priest Grand son 8 Scholar
All born Dudley

1861 Could be "White House" Cradley Road Dudley
Susan Fletcher Head Widow 60 Lady
Julia Fletcher Daur. 23 (Selina on image)
Emily Fletcher Daur. 26 Governess?
Sarah Fletcher Daur. 18 Governess
Edward Fletcher Son 32 Farm
Ann Portman Gran Daur.5
Robert Brown Gran Son 3
All born Netherton
Esther Garlin Mother Widow 78 Born Gloucestershire
Thomas Garlin Son 42 Labourer Born Gloucestershire
George Garlin Son 38 Labourer Born Gloucestershire
Not sure on the Garlins there is a house (18)between the Fletchers and Garlins, Garlins are at 20 Cradley Road

[kdw]

Possible submitted
SUSANNA SIMKISS
Christening: 05 SEP 1802 Dudley, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: JOHN SIMKISS Family
Mother: SOBIESKI

[Northern Lass]

those kids names would need verifying
what does it say on actual image?