*Arc tbc* --Maria Mucklow C 1842 /John Clift

[kdw]

1841 Long Lane Halesowen
Saml Mucklow 35 Nailer
Maria Mucklow 35 Nailer
Betty Mucklow 15 Nailer
Eli Mucklow 10 Nailer
Phylena Mucklow 10 Nailer
Sarrah Mucklow 5
Samuel Mucklow 8
Ruth Mucklow 4
Jane Mucklow 1
All born in County
Next door
Mary Mucklow 45 Nail ?
Sam Mucklow 25 Ditto
Sarrah Mucklow 25 Ditto
Joseph Mucklow 20 Coal Miner
Jane Mucklow 15 Nail ?
James Mucklow 10
Philis Mucklow 4
All born in County

1851 Long Lane Cakemore
Samuel Mucklow Head 48 Nail Forger
Meria Mucklow Wife 46 Nial Forger
Ely Mucklow Son 23 Nail Forger
Salley Mucklow Daur. 19 Nail Forger
Samuel Mucklow Son 16 Nail Forger
Philena Mucklow Daur. 17 Nail Forger
Amelia Mucklow Daur. 14 Nail Forger
Maria Mucklow Daur. 9
Nira Mucklow Daur. 3 (Mira)
Pheobe Mucklow Daur. 1
All Born Halesowen

1861 Long Lane Cakemore
Samuel Mucklow Head 58 Nail Maker
Maria Mucklow Wife 57 Nail Maker
Philena Mucklow Daur. 27 Nail Maker
Maria Mucklow Daur. 19 Nail Maker
Myra Mucklow Daur. 13 Nail Maker
Thomas Mucklow GrandSon 9
James Mucklow Grandson 7
All born Halesowen

1871 Long Lane Cakemore
Samuel Mucklow Head 68 Nail Maker Born Cakemore
Maria Mucklow Wife 66 Born Halesowen
Thomas Mucklow Grandson 19 Rivet Maker Born Halesowen
James Mucklow Grandson 16 Nail Mkaer Born Halesowen
Albert Mucklow Grandson 7 Born Halesowen

Possible marriage for Samuel
SAMUEL MUCKLOW
Marriages:
Spouse: MARIA SMART Family
Marriage: 28 AUG 1825 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

[kdw]

Samuel could be the son of Thomas Mucklow here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =478653812
SAMUEL MUCKLOW
Christening: 24 APR 1803 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: THOMAS MUCKLOW Family
Mother: PHILLENNA

Children by Thomas and Phillena

SAMUEL MUCKLOW - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 APR 1803 Halesowen, Worcester, England

SARAH MUCKLOW - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 01 DEC 1805 Halesowen, Worcester, England

JOSEPH MUCKLOW - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 31 MAR 1793 Halesowen, Worcester, England

FULLENAH MUCKLOW - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 MAR 1795 Halesowen, Worcester, England

JANE MUCKLOW - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 JUL 1801 Halesowen, Worcester, England

MARY MUCKLOW - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 01 APR 1810 Halesowen, Worcester, England

JAMES MUCKLOW - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 FEB 1800 Halesowen, Worcester, England

[kdw]

1871 Long Lane Hill Worcestershire
John Clift Head 26 Rivet Maker
Maria Clift Wife 23 Nail forger
John Clift Son 1
George Clift Brother 15 Labourer
All Born Long Lane

Possible marriage
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
CLIFT John MUCKLOW Maria Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/001/34


mallosa wrote
For future reference....
In 1861 living a few doors away from John's parents, there is a Thomas Mucklow age 87 Widower Retired Nailmaker born Hill, Worcestershire - living as a boarder with a Thomas and Mary Webster

Ahh! I though so....

(Extracted from IGI)
THOMAS WEBSTER
Spouse: MARY MUCKLOW
Marriage: 22 JUL 1833 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick

1851: Long Lane, The Hill, Worcester
Thomas Webster 40 Head Nailer Ridgacre
Mary Webster 41 Wife Nailer Cakemore, Worcester
Jane Webster 17 Dau
Thomas Webster 15 Son
William Webster 9 Son
Mary Webster 5 Dau
Lenny Webster 1 Mo Son
Thomas Mucklow 77 Father In Law Late Nailer
(others born The Hill, Worcester)

I think Mary Mucklow is the sister of Samuel

[dianel]

Just posting the '61 for the Webster's as it could tell us who Jane Webster married:

1861
At Long Lane, Hill, Halesowen, Worcs.
Thomas Webster Head 51 Labourer b. Ridgacre, Worcestershire
Mary Webster Wife 51 Nail Maker b. Cakemore, Worcestershire
Mary Webster Daur 15 Nail Maker b. Hill, Worcestershire
Jane Moore Boarder 27 Nail Maker b. Hill, Worcestershire
William T Moore Boarder 3 b. Hill, Worcestershire
Thomas Mucklow Lodger Widower 87 Retired Nail Maker b. Worcs., Hill

There's these Marriages:
Aquila Moore 1857 Stourbridge Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Elizabeth Pearson 1857 Stourbridge Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Edward Henry Weaver 1857 Stourbridge Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Jane Webster 1857 Stourbridge Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire

Although Jane is said to be married in all these, she is living with her parents and son, William in census from 1861 on.
There is an Aquilla Moore, also married but not living with his spouse:

1871
At Gibbett Lane, Hasbury
James Moore Head 74 Disabled Formerly Thatcher b. Worcs., Halesowen
Nancy Moore Wife 68 Formerly Nail Forger b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Aquilla Moore Son Mar. 35 Thatcher Gardener b. Worcs., Halesowen

1881
At Gibbett Lane, Hasbury
Nancy Moore Head Widow 78 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Aquila Moore Son Mar 42 Thatcher b. Worcs., Halesowen

1891
At Gibbett Lane, Hasbury
Aquilla Moore Head Mar 54 Rick Thatcher b. Worcs., Halesowen

Looks like Jane and Aquila separated shortly after their marriage.

[dianel]

1861
At Gibbett Lane, Hasbury
James Moore Head 62 Thatcher b. Worcs., Hasbury
Nancy Moore Wife 58 Nail Forger b. Staffs., Rowley
Aquila (transcribed as 'Agusta') Moore Son Mar 24 Stone Miner b. Worcs., Hasbury

1851
At Hagley Street, Halesowen
James Moor Head 57 Thatcher & Labourer b. Worcs., Drow Hasbury Horle
Nancy (transcribed as 'Nanny') Moor Wife 47 b. Staffs., Rowley
Equiley (transcribed as 'Emily') Moor Son 14 b. Sebetham Hasbury
Nancy (transcribed as 'Nanny') Moor Daur 8 b. Sebetham Hasbury

1901
At Gibbett Lane, Hasbury
Aquila Moore (transcribed as 'Mavro') Head Widr. 64 Thatcher .... (something I can't read) b. Worcs., Halesowen
(Looks like)Euzey Moore Sister 62 b. Worcs., Halesowen

[dianel]

This family appears to connect to rosegarden's tree on Ancestry. Or did we know that?

[linell]

I think James Moor Married Nancy Brettell 29.3.1823 Halesowen

1851 Hagley Street Halesowen
James Moor HD M 57 Thatcher & Labourer Worcs Hasbury
Nancy Wife M 47 Staffs Rowley
Eguley Son 14 Labourer Worcs Hasbury
Nancy DA 8 Worcs Hasbury

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

How do we know that is our Maria Mucklow as on census she is born about 1847/9

where does the Jane Webster come in?

confused on this one?

[Northern Lass]

1847
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
MUCKLOW Maria Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/007/173

can't see an 1842 one

in which case this one can't be the one on the census with Samuel and Maria
can it?

[kdw]

I can't see a Maria Mucklow on census born 1847
Dont know if this could be her

Marriages Dec 1903
BYNG Francis Bromsgrove 6c 671
CALDICOTT William Charles Bromsgrove 6c 671
CLIFT Maria Bromsgrove 6c 671
Spence Diana Jane Bromsgrove 6c 671

Deaths Mar 1923
BYNG Maria 75 Stourbridge 6c 5

Can someone please look at 1911 census

[kdw]

Adding this now think ive cracked it
Added by Kdw <br>THOMAS X MUCKLOW Bach o.t.p.of Rowley Regis<br>FERLENEAR X FIDDIER Widow o.t.s.p.<br>Banns<br>Wit: Robert Waldron Ann Griffin<br> Marriage: 09 SEP 1792 Clent, Worcester,

FULLENAH TROMAN
Marriages:
Spouse: SAMUEL FIDDIAN Family
Marriage: 03 AUG 1789 Halesowen, Worcester, England

From Halesowen parish reg
Samuel X Fiddian otp Bach
Fullenah Troman otp wid by WS (Vicar)
Wit: Andrew X Harris and Richard Fiddian

1 Nov 1784
Shadrack Trueman otp bach
Philena X Harris otp spin by J P (Curate)
Wit: Wm. Matthews and Joseph Chandler

Baptised 29 Sept 1762 Phelenna Harris Dau. of John and Catherine Harris

[kdw]

ok now im really getting lost with this
Shadrack Trueman is the son of William Trueman and Honor Homer
Shadrach Trueman
Christening: 17 SEP 1763 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Parents:
Father: William Trueman Family
Mother: Mrs. Honor Trueman

William and Honor are here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =129721801

AND is Samuel Fiddian a brother to Richard Fiddian here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =388129206
RICHARD FIDDIAN Pedigree
Christening: 15 OCT 1758 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: WILLM. FIDDIAN
Mother: MARY

SAMUEL FIDDIAN
Christening: SEP 1750 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM FIDDIAN
Mother: MARY

[Northern Lass]

Wot?

[kdw]

Please Help adding im getting lost with it all
Have started to add here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =162729124

[peterd]

From Halesowen parish reg
Samuel X Fiddian otp Bach
Fullenah Troman otp wid by WS (Vicar)
Wit: Andrew X Harris and Richard Fiddian

AND is Samuel Fiddian a brother to Richard Fiddian here

RICHARD FIDDIAN Pedigree
Christening: 15 OCT 1758 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: WILLM. FIDDIAN
Mother: MARY

SAMUEL FIDDIAN
Christening: SEP 1750 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM FIDDIAN
Mother: MARY

good poss there brother