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Re: two joseph tromans

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dianel wrote: Joseph Tromans and Hannah
Family 2.

1861 (Transcribed as 'Freeman')
At Black Heath, Rowley Regis
Entry 73
Joseph Truman Head 28 Boiler Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Hannah Truman Wife 23 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Nancy Truman Daur 2 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Alice Truman Daur 5 Mo b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

At Entry 72:
Thomas Tromans Head 51 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Tromans Wife 50 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Fanny Tromans Daur 20 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Henry Tromans Son 17 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Rebecca Tromans Daur 16 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Joseph Tromans Son 15 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Thomas Tromans Son 8 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
This family are on BCC at
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=13076&rand=817956382



1851 Village
Thomas Tromans 40 Nailer
Sarah Tromans 61 Nailer (Could be 41)
James Tromans 16 Nailer
Sarah Tromans 15 Nailer
Hannah Tromans 13 Nailer
Henry Tromans 8 Nailer
Rebecca Tromans 6 Nailer
Joseph Tromans 4 Scholar
John Gaunt 21 Nailer Inmate b Stafford
Rest born Rowley Regis

Was an "Inmate" just a fancy way of saying Lodger? - that is the second time I have come across it in as many days
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dianel wrote:
Candidates for the Josephs b. 1833 to 1835 Rowley Regis:
Census 1851:
Joseph Tromans At Rowley Village, b. 1832 father David. Both father and son are nailors born Rowley Regis
Joseph Tromans At Cradley Heath, b. 1834 father Benjamin Labourer. This Joseph is a chainmaker and has a sister, Mary, born abt 1832
Joseph Trowman At New Town, Dudley b. 1835 parents Isaac & Maria. Both father and son are nailors born Rowley Regis. This Joseph has a sister, Mary, born abt 1831. This Mary is deaf & dumb which could have accounted for her being unmarried and living with her brother in 1881 & 91 (Family 1.)

I'm inclined to agree that Joseph of Family 1. is this last Joseph with parents Isaac & Maria.

And I think that Joseph 2. is the one with father David, but this is just a guess.

Maths girl wrote:
1851 Village
Thomas Tromans 40 Nailer
Sarah Tromans 61 Nailer (Could be 41)
James Tromans 16 Nailer
Sarah Tromans 15 Nailer
Hannah Tromans 13 Nailer
Henry Tromans 8 Nailer
Rebecca Tromans 6 Nailer
Joseph Tromans 4 Scholar
John Gaunt 21 Nailer Inmate b Stafford
Rest born Rowley Regis

Was an "Inmate" just a fancy way of saying Lodger? - that is the second time I have come across it in as many days


1851 Village
David Tromans 55 Widower Nailer
Joseph Tromans 19 Son Nailer
Sarah Parkes 32 Daug Widow Nailer
Joseph Parkes 11 Grandson Nailer
George Parkes 7 Grandson
Elizabeth Parkes 3 Grandaugh
Phebe Parkes 1 Mo Grandaugh
William Tromans 11 Visitor Nailer


??Were Thomas and David brothers?
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Re: two joseph tromans

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1841 Village
Thomas Tromans 30 Nailer
Sarah Tromans 30
James Tromans 7
Sarah Tromans 5
Samuel Tromans 3
Ann Tromans 2
Fanny Tromans 3 Mo

Also
1841 Village
David Tromans 45 Nailer
Ann Tromans 20
Irene Tromans 15
Joseph Tromans 5
William Tromans 1
Thomas Parkes 25 Nailer
Sarah Parkes 25
Joseph Parkes 4
William Parkes 2
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dianel wrote:Joseph Tromans and Hannah

1871
At Blakeheath, Rowley Regis
Joseph Tromans Head 36 Boiler Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Hannah Tromans 32 Nail Maker b. Wednesbury, Staffs.
Nancy Tromans 14 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Alice Tromans 11 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
George Tromans 9 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Joseph Tromans 3 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Tromans 3 months b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Siviter 22 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis - Boarder

1881

At 100 The Village, Rowley Regis
Matthew Siviter Head 37 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Siviter Wife 36 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Ann Daur Siviter 17 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Saml. Siviter Son 14 General Lab. b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Thomas Siviter Son 12 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
George Siviter Son 5 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Edward Siviter Son 3 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Edith Rebecca Siviter Daur 1 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Tromans Niece 13 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis


1871 Rowley Village
Edward Tromans 39 Nailer
Philis Tromans 28 Nailer
Harriot Tromans 7 Scholar
Thomas Tromans 5
Hannah Tromans 3
Mary Ann Tromans 2
Edith Tromans 2 weeks
Comfort Suiter 15(Siviter on original) Nailer Niece
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Maths girl wrote: 1871 Rowley Village
Edward Tromans 39 Nailer
Philis Tromans 28 Nailer
Harriot Tromans 7 Scholar
Thomas Tromans 5
Hannah Tromans 3
Mary Ann Tromans 2
Edith Tromans 2 weeks
Comfort Suiter 15(Siviter on original) Nailer Niece


Possible
1861 Rowley Village
Samuel Tromans 68
Martha Tromans 58
Edward Tromans 30
Louise Tromans 16
Leah Tromans 14
Eliza Tromans 17

All Nailers
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Maths girl wrote:
Maths girl wrote: 1871 Rowley Village
Edward Tromans 39 Nailer
Philis Tromans 28 Nailer
Harriot Tromans 7 Scholar
Thomas Tromans 5
Hannah Tromans 3
Mary Ann Tromans 2
Edith Tromans 2 weeks
Comfort Suiter 15(Siviter on original) Nailer Niece


Possible
1861 Rowley Village
Samuel Tromans 68
Martha Tromans 58
Edward Tromans 30
Louise Tromans 16
Leah Tromans 14
Eliza Tromans 17

All Nailers


1851 Boston
Samuel Tromans 57 Nailor
Martha Tromans 50 Nailor
Fanny Tromans 15 Nailor
Elizebeth Tromans 13 Nailor
Phebe Tromans 10 Nailor
Lucy Tromans 6
Leah Tromans 2

No room at the Inn??
1851
James Smith 25 Nailer
Mary Smith 21 Nailer's wife
Phebe Smith 1 Mo
William Daniel 26 Lodger Nailer
Edward Tromans 22 Lodger Nailer
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Re: two joseph tromans

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ok i think iv work out family one
isaac and phoebe
had 6 children
samuel 1826
hannah 1827
mary 1830
nancy 1832
joseph 1835
phoebe 1837

there son joseph 1835 married hannah parkes or perry no 100% sure which one
the have 3 children
samuel
mary
hagar

famliy 2
im still try to work out who this joseph mum and dad was
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Re: two joseph tromans

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Sorry to harp on Family 1., but I think we have enough evidence to add to this family to BCC at http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =179157646

Do you think?

Joseph Tromans
Father: Isaac Tromans

Spouse: Hannah Perry
Father: James Perry

Marriage: 06 OCT 1856 St Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester

1841
At New Street, Rowley Regis
Isaac Troman 35 Nail Maker
Meriah Troman 35
Samuel Troman 15
Hannah Troman 13
Mary Troman 11 (Joseph's deaf & dumb sister)
Nancy Troman 9
Joseph Troman 7

1851
At New Town, Dudley
Isaac Trowman Head 48 Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Maria Trowman Wife 46 Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Samuel Trowman Son 25 Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Mary Trowman Daur 20 Nailor b. Rowley Regis (Joseph's deaf & dumb sister)
Nancy Trowman Daur 18 Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Joseph Trowman Son 16 Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Trowman Grand-daur 2 b. Worcs., Rowley

Previous entry: (Isaac's father)
John Trowman Head widr. 82 2/6 a week from Parish Jew's Harp maker

1861
At Bowling Green, Dudley
Entry 69 (Isaac's son & Joseph's brother)
Samuel Tromans Head 35 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Tromans Wife 32 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Tromans Daur 13 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
John Tromans Son 6 Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley
James Tromans Son 4 Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley
Isaac Tromans Son 1 b. Worcs., Dudley

Entry 70 (Joseph's father & stepmother)
Isaac Tromans Head 58 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mariah Tromans Wife 56 Nail Maker b. Edgbaston, Warwick
Mary Tromans Daughter 31 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis Deaf & Dumb (Joseph's deaf & dumb sister)
Sarah Hingley Granddaur 4 Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley

1871
At 26 New Town
Isaac Tromons Head 67 Nail Maker b. New Town, Worcs. (Joseph's father)
Maria Tromons Wife 66 b. New Town, Worcs.
Mary Tromons Daur Unm. 41 Nail Maker b. New Town, Worcs. Deaf & Dumb (Joseph's deaf & dumb sister)
Samuel Tromons Boarder 45 Labourer b. New Town, Worcs. (Joseph's brother)
Elizabeth Tromons Wife 42 b. New Town, Worcs.
John Tromons Son 16 Chain Maker b. New Town, Worcs.
James Tromons Son 14 Chain Maker b. New Town, Worcs.
Isaac Tromons Son 11 b. New Town, Worcs.
Prudence Tromons Daur 7 b. New Town, Worcs.
Hannah Tromons Daur 5 b. New Town, Worcs.
Samuel Tromons Son 5 month b. New Town, Worcs.

At Tibbetts Gardens
Entry 221
Joseph Tromans Head 36 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Hannah Tromans Wife 37 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Samuel Tromans Son 11 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Alice Tromans Daur 7 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Patience Tromans Daur 4 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary Tromans Daur 11 months b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

1881
At 26 New Town, Dudley, Netherton
Joseph Tromans Head 46 Nailer b. Worcs., Dudley
Hannah Tromans Wife 47 b. Worcs., Dudley
Mary Tromans Daur 10 Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley
Hagar Tromans Daur 9 b. Worcs., Dudley
Mary Tromans Sister Unm. 50 b. Worcs., Dudley (Joseph's deaf & dumb sister)

1891
At 26 The Pleck, Dudley, Netherton
Entry 37
Joseph Tromans Head 57 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Dudley
Hannah Tromans Wife 58 b. Worcs., Dudley
Mary Tromans Sister S 60 Nail Maker b. Worcs., Dudley (Joseph's deaf & dumb sister)
Samuel Tromans Son Widr. 32 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Dudley
Alice Tromans Daur S 26 General Dom. Servant b. Worcs., Dudley
Mary E Tromans Daur S 20 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Dudley
Hagar Tromans Daur S 18 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Dudle
Hannah M Tromans G. Daur 11 Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley
Joseph Tromans G. Son 7 Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley
Sarah Tromans G. Daur 5 Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley

1901
At 26 New Town, Dudley, Netherton
Joseph Tromans Head 66 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Old Hill
Hannah Tromans Wife 67 b. Red Hill, Worcs.
Samuel Tromans Son Wid 41 Chain Maker b. Red Hill, Worcs.
Hagar Tromans Daur S 28 Chain Maker b. Cradley, Worcs.
Joseph H Tromans Grandson 17 Anchor Maker b. Earlstown Lane
Sarah Tromans Granddaur 15 b. Earlstown Lane

This looks like Mary Tromans, the hearing impaired lady, in 1901.
1901
At Hingley St., Rowley Regis
Frederick Neale Head 53 Chain Maker employer b. Worcs., Kings Norton
Sarah Neale Wife 46 b. Worcs., Netherton, Dudley
Martha Neale Daur 20 Dressmaker b. Worcs., Netherton, Dudley
Frederick Neale Son 18 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Netherton, Dudley
Ezra Neale Son 17 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Netherton, Dudley
Mary Tromans Aunt 69 b. Worcs., Netherton, Dudley deaf & dumb (Joseph's deaf & dumb sister)

I'm happy to add this if you all think it's OK.
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Re: two joseph tromans

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Di trust your judgement if you think it looks good then that is good enuff for me!
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Shall do.
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OK, Isaac & Maria at:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =753633694

Isaac's son, Samuel at:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =183679133

Isaac's daughter, Nancy at:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =879331493

Isaac's son, Joseph at:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =192622507

Isaac's granddaughter, Sarah at:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=84579334
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Thanks Di for adding all that
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My pleasure! :wink:
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are we still running with this one?

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