*Arc tbc* --Palethorpe - Oldbury

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Nottinghamshire, England, Extracted Parish Records
Thomas Palethorpe, of Teachbrook, co. Warwick, & Hannah Latham, lic. 03 Jan 1808
Marriages at Newark, 1754 to 1837. (Marriage)
Nottinghamshire: - Register of Marriages, 1754-1837

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IGI Extracted:
THOMAS PALETHORP
Spouse: ELIZABETH WESTON
Marriage: 25 MAY 1818 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

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bcc updated census only on at moment will add rest tommorrow

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =106433736



question for the nightshift

who is edwin father

1881 83 Balsall Heath Rd Kings Norton, Worcester

Charles PALETHORPE 56 Warwick, Provision Merchant
Mary A. PALETHORPE 53 Knowle, Warwick, England
Frank H. PALETHORPE 17 Birmm Assistant Provision Merchant
Elizabeth COX Serv 22 Naseby, Northampton, England General Serv
Edwin PALETHORPE Nephew U 17 Birmm Lithographic Artist



and where was edwin in 1871

and where was edwin father and charles in 1841 ?

Is this Edwin....Says Palethorpe on image

1871: Hair Field Villa. Bickenhill, Warwickshire
Henry Paleshorpe 43 Head Butcher Warwick
Clara Paleshorpe 41 Wife Northfield, Worc
Walter Paleshorpe 17 Son Butcher
Charles Paleshorpe 14 Son
Polly Paleshorpe 12 Dau
Henry Paleshorpe 11 Son
William Paleshorpe 9 Son
Edwin Paleshorpe 7 Son
Fanny Wrighton 12 Niece
Mary Overton 20 Servant
(others born Birmingham)

If Henry & Clara are Edwin's parents, then here is Henry in 1841:
At Friars St., St. Mary, Warwickshire
Thomas Palethorpe 55 Gardener
Elizabeth Palethorpe 45
John Palethorpe 20 Gardener's Apprentice
William Palethorpe 15 Gardener's Apprentice
Henry Palethorpe 12
Mary Palethorpe 8
Alfred Palethorpe 5
Edward Palethorpe 3

All born in county

(For those who have ancestry, there's a photo of Henry here:
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/ViewPhoto. ... src=search)

Here are Thomas & Elizabeth in 1851:
At Friars St., St. Mary, Warwickshire
Thomas Palethorpe Head 58 Gardener b. Nottingham, Nemorete (??)
Elizabeth Palethorpe Wife 56 Gardener's Wife b. Warwicksh., Warwick
Mary Palethorpe Daur 17 Dressmaker b. Warwicksh., Warwick
Mary Ann Palethorpe Granddaur 5 Scholar b. Warwicksh., Warwick
George Wise Visitor 9 Scholar b. Warwicksh., Leamington
William Palethorpe Son 24 Gardener b. Warwicksh., Warwick

An Ancestry tree (Palethorpe/Weedon Family Tree) says that Elizabeth Weston was Thomas' second wife, his first wife was Hannah Latham.

This could be Charles (who married Mary Ann Cooper on 8 Sep 1849 at Leamington Priors Warwickshire at the age of 23) in 1841,
At Wellington St., Leamington Priors in the household of Abraham Collins (a Grocer) and his wife, Susannah, as a servant:
Charles Pailthorp 15 M. S. born in county

although charles is not with the rest of the family in 1841 i have linked him in due to edwin being his nephew and son of henry

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added charles kids in

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =975700180

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right harveys

is this Joseph Harvey with his brother?

1841 Market Place Leicester
John Harvey 39 Grocer
Ann Harvey 35
Josh Harvey 34 ( This is Jos h on original)
John Harvey 15
Thos Harvey 7
Ann Harvey 4
Ellen Harvey 3
Josh Harvey 15

Marriages Jun 1846

Harvey Joseph Leicester 15 147
Tyers Selina Leicester 15 147

1851 Buffin? Street Loughborough

Joseph Harvey 40 Grocer Master
Selina Harvey 30
Lilla Harvey 2
Joseph James Harvey 8 Mo
Robert Gregory 16 Grocers Assistant
John George Lime 20 Grocers Apprentice
Thomas Adderly 19 Grocers Apprentice
Ann Beckworth 22 House Servant
Eliza Oswin 13 House Servant

1861 30 Market Place

Joseph Harvey 53 Grocer/Master employing 4 men
Selina Harvey 37
Ellen Harvey 14 Scholar
Joseph Jarrom Harvey 10 Scholar
John Tyers Harvey 8 Scholar
William Harvey 7 Scholar
Eliza Mary Harvey 5 Scholar
Mary Jane Harvey 3 Scholar
Sarah Selina Harvey 6 Mo
Mary Ann Norton 23 Domestic servant
Matilda Tomkins 15 Domestic Servant
John Boulton 22 Grocers assistant
William Fisher 19 Grocers apprentice
Thomas Orton 18 Grocers apprentice

1851 Buffin? Street Loughborough
Joseph Harvey 40 Grocer Master
Selina Harvey 30
Lilla Harvey 2
Joseph James Harvey 8 Mo
Robert Gregory 16 Grocers Assistant
John George Lime 20 Grocers Apprentice
Thomas Adderly 19 Grocers Apprentice
Ann Beckworth 22 House Servant
Eliza Oswin 13 House Servant[/quote]

1871 70&72 High Street Leicester
Joseph Harvey 43 Grocer & Employer 8 men
Lilla Harvey 22 Daugh Housekeeper
Joseph J Harvey 20 Apothecary Apprentice
John T Harvey 18 Grocer
William Harvey 17 Grocer
Eliza M Harvey 15 Scholar
Mary J Harvey 13 Scholar
Sarah S Harvey 10 Scholar
Lucy Harvey 4 Scholar
John Yates 23 Grocer's Assistant
James Eaton 25 Grocer's Apprentice
William Frith 19 Grocer's Apprentice
John Dean 15 Grocer's Apprentice
Retta Ann Brudett 20 General Servant


Marriages Jun 1875
Harvey John Tyers King's N. 6c 704
PALETHORPE Louisa King's N 6c 704

Marriages Jun 1878
PALETHORPE Mary Jane King's N. 6c 697
ROSE William Arthur King's N. 6c 697

1881 70 & 72 High Street, Leicester

John Tyers Harvey 28 Grocer & Provision Merchant
Louisa Harvey 30
Charles T. Harvey 5 son
Jessica Mary Harvey 3 daughter
Harry Lawrence Harvey 1
Richard Palethorpe 18 Wife's brother, Ironmonger's apprentice
Charles Hy. Messenger 22 Grocer's assistant
Joseph Hellsby 20 Grocer's assistant
Harry Peberdy 19 Grocer's apprentice
Caroline Block 20 General Servant
Ada Woodward 16 Nurse Maid
Colowins (Octavius?)Winslow Palethorpe 14 Wife's brother, invalid

1891

Jno Tyers Harvey 38 Tea Traveller
Leicester (Louisa?) Harvey 40
Chas Tyero Harvey 15 Scholar
Harry Lawrence Harvey 11 Scholar
Miniel Harvey 9 Scholar
Carey Winslow Harvey 8 Scholar
Donald (includes Palethorpe on original as second name)Harvey 5 Scholar
Wm Arthur Rose 36 Visitor??? Traveller
Mary Jane Rose 36
Arthur Howard Rose 12
Edith Polter 18 Domestic Servant

1901 :, 93 grantham rd, Aston

John T Harvey 48 commercial traveller, Loughborough, Leicestershire,
Louisa Harvey 50 Birmingham
Charles T Harvey 25 chemist assistant Leicestershire
Jessica M Harvey 23 Boarding school Tea lady ?Leicestershire
Harry L Harvey 21 Clerk Leicestershire
Donald P Harvey 15 Apprentice ? N, Mount Sonel
Arthur R Harvey 6 Birmingham
Charles Palethorpe 76 father in law
Mary Ann Palethorpe 73 mother in law

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1891

Jno Tyers Harvey 38 Tea Traveller
Leicester (Louisa?) Harvey 40
Chas Tyero Harvey 15 Scholar
Harry Lawrence Harvey 11 Scholar
Miniel Harvey 9 Scholar
Carey Winslow Harvey 8 Scholar
Donald (includes Palethorpe on original as second name)Harvey 5 Scholar
Wm Arthur Rose 36 Visitor??? Traveller
Mary Jane Rose 36
Arthur Howard Rose 12
Edith Polter 18 Domestic Servant

is mary jane ? mary jane harvey anyonre find a marriage ?

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There's this one

Marriages Jun 1878

GIFFORD Jane King's N. 6c 697
PALETHORPE Mary Jane King's N. 6c 697
ROSE Charles King's N. 6c 697
ROSE William Arthur King's N. 6c 697

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There's this one

Marriages Jun 1878

GIFFORD Jane King's N. 6c 697
PALETHORPE Mary Jane King's N. 6c 697
ROSE Charles King's N. 6c 697
ROSE William Arthur King's N. 6c 697

thats the one san

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Electoral Roll
1920 St. Martin's and Deritend 91 596 O O Rose Mary 21 OUGHTON PLACE
1920 St. Martin's and Deritend 91 597 R - Rose William Arthur  21 OUGHTON PLACE

1925 St Martins & Deritend 91 619 O O Rose Mary 21 OUGHTON PLACE
1925 St Martins & Deritend 91 620 R O Rose William Arthur 21 OUGHTON PLACE
1925 St Martins & Deritend 91 621 HO HO Ross Lydia 21 OUGHTON PLACE
1925 St Martins & Deritend 91 622 R - Oarrington William 21 OUGHTON PLACE

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1861 30 Market Place
started to put these on

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http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =929050535

1861 30 Market Place

Joseph Harvey 53 Grocer/Master employing 4 men
Selina Harvey 37
Ellen Harvey 14 Scholar
Joseph Jarrom Harvey 10 Scholar
John Tyers Harvey 8 Scholar
William Harvey 7 Scholar
Eliza Mary Harvey 5 Scholar
Mary Jane Harvey 3 Scholar
Sarah Selina Harvey 6 Mo
Mary Ann Norton 23 Domestic servant
Matilda Tomkins 15 Domestic Servant
John Boulton 22 Grocers assistant
William Fisher 19 Grocers apprentice
Thomas Orton 18 Grocers apprentice

any one find place of birth please

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1861 30 Market Place
started to put these on

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http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =929050535

1861 30 Market Place

Joseph Harvey 53 Grocer/Master employing 4 men Belton Leicestershire
Selina Harvey 37 Loughboro', Leicestershire
Ellen Harvey 14 Scholar Loughboro', Leicestershire
Joseph Jarrom Harvey 10 Scholar Loughboro', Leicestershire
John Tyers Harvey 8 Scholar Loughboro', Leicestershire
William Harvey 7 Scholar Leicester
Eliza Mary Harvey 5 Scholar Leicester
Mary Jane Harvey 3 Scholar Leicester
Sarah Selina Harvey 6 Mo Leicester
Mary Ann Norton 23 Domestic servant Billesdon, Leicestershire
Matilda Tomkins 15 Domestic Servant Leicester
John Boulton 22 Grocers assistant Barwell, Leicestershire
William Fisher 19 Grocers apprentice Loughboro', Leicestershire
Thomas Orton 18 Grocers apprentice Husbands Bosworth, Leicestershire

any one find place of birth please

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thanks mg

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bcc updated here not put the 1841 census for harvey as canot link it in

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=43643433

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Does this help?

1851 Cank Street, Leicester ( This is very near Market Place!)
John Harvey 49 Grocer Master, Belton
Ann Harvey 40 Loughboro
Joseph Harvey 25 Attorney Loughboro
Mary Harvey 19 School Mistress Domestic Leicester
Thomas Harvey 17 Grocer Assistant Leicester
Ann Harvey 14 scholar at home Leicester
Ellen Harvey 12 scholar at home Leicester
Sarah Harvey 8 scholar at home Leicester
Ellen Harvey 4 Niece Visitor Loughboro
Robert Bird 22 Grocers Assistant
Samuel Breward 21 Grocers Assistant
William H Yates 20 Grocers Assistant
Thomas Tomlinson 19 Grocers Assistant
John Perks 18 Grocers Apprentice
William Biddles 16 Grocers Apprentice
Henry Stanton 16 Grocers Apprentice
Joseph Thiggott 21 Grocers Porter
Frederick Bown 13 Errand Boy
Elizabeth Page 20 Domestic Servant
Mary A Newey 20 Domestic Servant

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Does this help?

1851 Cank Street, Leicester ( This is very near Market Place!)
John Harvey 49 Grocer Master, Belton
Ann Harvey 40 Loughboro
Joseph Harvey 25 Attorney Loughboro
Mary Harvey 19 School Mistress Domestic Leicester
Thomas Harvey 17 Grocer Assistant Leicester
Ann Harvey 14 scholar at home Leicester
Ellen Harvey 12 scholar at home Leicester
Sarah Harvey 8 scholar at home Leicester
Ellen Harvey 4 Niece Visitor Loughboro
Robert Bird 22 Grocers Assistant
Samuel Breward 21 Grocers Assistant
William H Yates 20 Grocers Assistant
Thomas Tomlinson 19 Grocers Assistant
John Perks 18 Grocers Apprentice
William Biddles 16 Grocers Apprentice
Henry Stanton 16 Grocers Apprentice
Joseph Thiggott 21 Grocers Porter
Frederick Bown 13 Errand Boy
Elizabeth Page 20 Domestic Servant
Mary A Newey 20 Domestic Servant

think the neice is joseph and selina kid ?
also both master grocers
also both born belton

Maths girl wrote:
is this Joseph Harvey with his brother?

1841 Market Place Leicester
John Harvey 39 Grocer
Ann Harvey 35
Josh Harvey 34 ( This is Jos h on original)
John Harvey 15
Thos Harvey 7
Ann Harvey 4
Ellen Harvey 3
Josh Harvey 15

Marriages Jun 1846

Harvey Joseph Leicester 15 147
Tyers Selina Leicester 15 147

also lilla with ann and ellen 4 & 3 in 1841 24 & 23 in 1861


1861; 13 George st, Edgbaston, birmingham

Ann Harvey 24 school mistress Leicestershire
Ellen Harvey 23 sister school mistress Leicestershire
Sarah Harvey 18 sister Leicestershire
Lilla Harvey 12 Boarder, Loughton, Leicestershire
Elizabeth Harding 11 Boarder, Leicestershire
Frances A Pike 6 Boarder, Birmingham
Ellen Smith 22 serv, Acock's Green, Warwickshire