*Arc tbc* --Clee confusion
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*Arc tbc* --Clee confusion
Hi
Doing a bit of digging on the children of Jesse & Caroline Clee.
They had a daughter Catherine born in 1870. She was living with her parents in 1871 & 1881 & 1891. I assume she married after 1891.
Checking the West Midland site I've found a marriage, in 1891, of a Kate Clee to a Joseph J Fellows at Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill.
Freebmd shows a Kate married in the December 1891 quarter [volume 6c page 69]. On the same page is a Joseph Jeavons Fellows.
The BCC site has a Catherine Clee [born 1870] married to a Joseph Jeavons on 1/11/1891 at St. Johns, Kates Hill.
Who's right?
Doug
Doing a bit of digging on the children of Jesse & Caroline Clee.
They had a daughter Catherine born in 1870. She was living with her parents in 1871 & 1881 & 1891. I assume she married after 1891.
Checking the West Midland site I've found a marriage, in 1891, of a Kate Clee to a Joseph J Fellows at Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill.
Freebmd shows a Kate married in the December 1891 quarter [volume 6c page 69]. On the same page is a Joseph Jeavons Fellows.
The BCC site has a Catherine Clee [born 1870] married to a Joseph Jeavons on 1/11/1891 at St. Johns, Kates Hill.
Who's right?
Doug
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Re: Clee confusion
Pudsey to Howard wrote:Hi
Doing a bit of digging on the children of Jesse & Caroline Clee.
They had a daughter Catherine born in 1870. She was living with her parents in 1871 & 1881 & 1891. I assume she married after 1891.
Checking the West Midland site I've found a marriage, in 1891, of a Kate Clee to a Joseph J Fellows at Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill.
Freebmd shows a Kate married in the December 1891 quarter [volume 6c page 69]. On the same page is a Joseph Jeavons Fellows.
The BCC site has a Catherine Clee [born 1870] married to a Joseph Jeavons on 1/11/1891 at St. Johns, Kates Hill.
Who's right?
Doug
Could be all the same- just that one site has used Kate as abbreviation for Catherine or transcribed wrongly because of "Kate's Hill".
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Re: Clee confusion
No one's right Doug, in family reseach, different names and spellings for the same person occur all the time, nothing is set in stone, you have to be open minded when doing genealogy. Linell.
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Re: Clee confusion
Is this this family that uses Jeavons and Fellows
something rings a bell
Should he be a Fellows or a Jeavons?
here is the link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =726424550
mumbles you about?
is this the one where they changed it from one to the other?
something rings a bell
Should he be a Fellows or a Jeavons?

here is the link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =726424550
mumbles you about?
is this the one where they changed it from one to the other?
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Re: Clee confusion
Yes it is
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =998215425
think that must be the marriage then I will enter a note on bcc
so he married as Fellows and kept the Jeavons name
I can't remember the giste of this one
whoever can we could do with adding something in the notes
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =998215425
think that must be the marriage then I will enter a note on bcc
so he married as Fellows and kept the Jeavons name
I can't remember the giste of this one
whoever can we could do with adding something in the notes
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Re: Clee confusion
Hi
Thanks for the reply - a quick search of this site helped me understand the confusion of Jeavons & Fellows.
Doug
Thanks for the reply - a quick search of this site helped me understand the confusion of Jeavons & Fellows.
Doug
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Re: Clee confusion
Pudsey to Howard wrote:Hi
Thanks for the reply - a quick search of this site helped me understand the confusion of Jeavons & Fellows.
Doug
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Re: Clee confusion
this is where it all started elizabeth parsons
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =560166170
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Re: Clee confusion
This is a tricky one I have been thinking about this...
I think that we need to from now on show the names as they manifest themselves as long as it keeps to one variant
on how you spell that name
So if gt grandfather shows as Joseph Fellows Jeavons
ok
then son is
James Jeavons Fellows
ok
then his son is
Mark Fellows
and on to
John
Jeavons
as long as we keep to one variant
ie Jeavons not Jevons
Fellows not Fellowes
that I think will then mirror how the surname changes down the ages thru the generations
we take the risk of not finding the individual under the myriad of changes but will if we
know about the family, and changes hopefully check all variants
I am ok with us doing that
we can see how it goes.
There are not many like this
and it is not set in stone so can always be revisited.
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I think that we need to from now on show the names as they manifest themselves as long as it keeps to one variant
on how you spell that name
So if gt grandfather shows as Joseph Fellows Jeavons
ok
then son is
James Jeavons Fellows
ok
then his son is
Mark Fellows
and on to
John
Jeavons
as long as we keep to one variant
ie Jeavons not Jevons
Fellows not Fellowes
that I think will then mirror how the surname changes down the ages thru the generations
we take the risk of not finding the individual under the myriad of changes but will if we
know about the family, and changes hopefully check all variants
I am ok with us doing that
we can see how it goes.
There are not many like this
and it is not set in stone so can always be revisited.

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Re: Clee confusion
on ukbmd its down as kate
CLEE Kate FELLOWS Joseph J 1891 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/006/418
free bmd its kate
Marriages Dec 1891
Chandler Margaret Ann Dudley 6c 69
Clee Kate Dudley 6c 69
Fellows Joseph Jeavons Dudley 6c 69
Townsend William Dudley 6c 69
CLEE Kate FELLOWS Joseph J 1891 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/006/418
free bmd its kate
Marriages Dec 1891
Chandler Margaret Ann Dudley 6c 69
Clee Kate Dudley 6c 69
Fellows Joseph Jeavons Dudley 6c 69
Townsend William Dudley 6c 69
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on census catherine
1901 providence st ? Rowley Regis
Joseph J Fellows 31 Labourer Colliery, Neatherton
Catherine J Fellows 31 Cradley Heath
Gladys M J Fellows 5 Cradley Heath
Norah K Fellows 5 months Cradley Heath
1901 providence st ? Rowley Regis
Joseph J Fellows 31 Labourer Colliery, Neatherton
Catherine J Fellows 31 Cradley Heath
Gladys M J Fellows 5 Cradley Heath
Norah K Fellows 5 months Cradley Heath
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extracted
CATHERINE CLEE
Birth: 13 NOV 1869
Christening: 26 DEC 1869 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Father: JESSE CLEE
Mother: CATHERINE
sibling
RUTH CLEE
Christening: 07 APR 1872 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
CATHERINE CLEE
Birth: 13 NOV 1869
Christening: 26 DEC 1869 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Father: JESSE CLEE
Mother: CATHERINE
sibling
RUTH CLEE
Christening: 07 APR 1872 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
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1891 cradley row ? Dudley
John Jene Fellows 43 Truck loader
Mary Anne Fellows 41
Joseph Jene Fellows 21 Truck loader
Ruth Jene Fellows 13
all born netherton
Ann Fellows 49 (lester ? on image /)next house ?
Phoebe Ann Collins 28
John Jene Fellows 43 Truck loader
Mary Anne Fellows 41
Joseph Jene Fellows 21 Truck loader
Ruth Jene Fellows 13
all born netherton
Ann Fellows 49 (lester ? on image /)next house ?
Phoebe Ann Collins 28
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1891; 15 bank st, Rowley Regis
Jessie Clee 61 Chain Manufacturer, Dudley
Catherine Clee 21 Rowley Regis
Ruth Clee 19 Rowley Regis
Lily Clee 14 Rowley Regis
Jessie Clee 61 Chain Manufacturer, Dudley
Catherine Clee 21 Rowley Regis
Ruth Clee 19 Rowley Regis
Lily Clee 14 Rowley Regis
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1871 Darby Rd, Rowley Regis
Jesse Clee 41 chain maker Dudley
Catherine Clee 40 Dudley
Joseph Clee 16 Rowley Regis
Hannah Clee 10 Rowley Regis
John Clee 8 Rowley Regis
Katherine Clee 1 Rowley Regis
Jesse Clee 41 chain maker Dudley
Catherine Clee 40 Dudley
Joseph Clee 16 Rowley Regis
Hannah Clee 10 Rowley Regis
John Clee 8 Rowley Regis
Katherine Clee 1 Rowley Regis
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