*TBC Archive? * James Brayfield Pool(e)

[BostinFittle1982]

James Brayfield Poole is my Great-Great-Grandfather on my Dad's Maternal line. Not a lot is known about this line as my Nan's Father (James' son) William John Poole was a alcoholic and left her mother, Alice Lilian Braithwaite, and my Nan, Doris, when she was a young child. I do know that both James and William John were Pork Butchers. The problem lies with the fact that James changes his date of birth and place of birth at every census. I have been able to find the family through his wife Mary Ann as her date of birth and place of birth never changes.

James can be first found in 1871 census living at 86 John Street in the village Ettingshall near Bilston, Staffordshire aged 23. He is stated as a Butcher Master. He is living with his wife Mary (Ann), daughter Eliza, son William (not William John) and his father William. He gives his date of birth as abt 1848 in Southampton.

Next, we find him living at 17 Green Croft in Bilston, Staffordshire in 1881. He says he was born abt 1849 in Walford, Leicestershire. James is now living with wife Mary Ann, daughters Eliza (12), Sarah (10) and Clara (6), as well as sons James (8) and William John (2). At this time he is working as a Pork Butcher.

In the 1891 census he is living at 34 Church Street in Bilston, Staffordshire with wife Mary Ann, daughters Sarah (19), Clara (6), Annie (10), Pollie (6) and son William John (14) working as a Pork Butcher. He gives the year as abt 1851and his place of birth as Bilston, Staffordshire.

At the turn of last century in the 1901 census, James gives his date of birth as abt 1851 in Watford, Northamptonshire. He is living at 344 Willenhall Road in Wolverhampton working as a Pork Butcher with William now also working as a Pork Butcher. At this point he is living with his wife Mary Ann, his children William (23), Annie (19) and Polly (14).


I have sent hours at the Staffordshire County Archive looking through parish registers for record of James prior to 1871in addition to his marriage to Mary Ann but have come up blank.


Recently, I have found James in the 1911 census. I was most interested in this census as it was the first to be filled out by the people themselves and contained information about any marriages. In this census James says he was born in 1844 in Crick, Northamptonshire. It also states that he has been married to Mary Ann for 44 years with 9 children being born to the marriage but with only 7 living.

[Northern Lass]

Just moved to Gen discussion will move back to brick walls if we have no luck

[BostinFittle1982]

I have been looking in The Kelly's Directory for Staffordshire. This is what I have found under the Pork Butcher section of the directory:

1900

J. Pool, 344 Willenhall Road, Wolverhampton

1912

James Poole, 86 Wolverhampton Road, Heath Town, Wolverhampton

[BostinFittle1982]

An update on this is that James Pool's middle name was actually Bradfield. He came from Northamptonshire. His father was William Pool. I can find him in the 1871-1911 census' but can find him or his father before this but do know at some point they were in or near the Brixworth Workhouse.

[Northern Lass]

So do you have the marriage for James and Mary ann?
do you have her maiden name from one of the childrens birth?
where was Mary ann born?
where was the first child born?

[BostinFittle1982]

James Bradfield Pool was born in Dec 1847 at Brixworth, Northamptonshire, England. He married Mary Ann Holloway on 23rd Feb 1860 at Trinity Church, Ettingshall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England. Mary Ann Holloway was born in 1847 at Bilston, Staffordshire, England. Their first child I can find is Eliza or Elizabeth Pool born abt 1868 in Bilston, Staffordshire, England.

In 1871 census they were living at 86 Johns Street in New Village in Bilston. The occupiers were:

James Pool 23 Head
Mary Pool 22 Wife
Eliza Pool 2 Daughter
William Pool 11 months Son
William Pool 60 Father

[grangers14]

Could this possibly be them??
1841 Census
Watford, Long Buckby, Welford
William Pool, 30, Farmer
Charlotte, 30
Ann, 10,
Frederick, 7,
Eliza, 4,
William, 2
All born in County

1851 Census
Gibbs Farm, Guilsbrough, Northamptonshire
William pool, head, w, 42, Farmer of 28 Acres,
Ann, daur, 19,
Alfred, son, 18,
Frederick, son, 17,
William, son, 11,
Thomas, son, 8,
James B, son, 3, Nortoft( ?)
All others born Watford, Northamptonshire

1861 Census
38, Up Rus(?) Walsall Borough, Staffordshire
Fredderick Rathbone, head, 20, Butcher
Jane, sister, 23
William Poole, 52, Servant, Watford, Northamptonshire
Mary Rothbone, niece, 13,
All others born Newbold On Avon, Warwickshire

1861 Census
Lodge House, above it written Park Farm. Watford, Northamptonshire
Ann Pool, head, w, 72(77?) Farmer of 112 acres 4 men and 2 boys
George, son, w, 43, shepherd
William, grandson, 11, works on the farm
Susanna, grandaur, 9, Helondon( ?)
Agnes, grandaur, 7, Helondon( ?)
Eliza, grandaur, 22, dairy Maid
Ja,es, grandson, 13, works on the farm, Guilsborough
Arthur, grandson, 4, Rugby
All others born Watford

[peterd]

James Bradfield Pool was born in Dec 1847 at Brixworth, Northamptonshire, England. He married Mary Ann Holloway on 23rd Feb 1860 at Trinity Church, Ettingshall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England. Mary Ann Holloway was born in 1847 at Bilston, Staffordshire, England. Their first child I can find is Eliza or Elizabeth Pool born abt 1868 in Bilston, Staffordshire, England.

In 1871 census they were living at 86 Johns Street in New Village in Bilston. The occupiers were:

James Pool 23 Head
Mary Pool 22 Wife
Eliza Pool 2 Daughter
William Pool 11 months Son
William Pool 60 Father

should this be 1861 census ?

only 13 when married ? or it is 1871 census and married 1870 ?

[grangers14]

Free bmd has this as a possible?
Marriages Mar 1868 (>99%)
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Churm Samuel Dudley 6c 85
Holloway Mary Dudley 6c 85
Pool James Dudley 6c 85
Wilde Hannah Dudley 6c 85

[peterd]

think that 1860 typing error jo and poss your 1868 correct with 1871 census

[grangers14]

Can this be archived now BostinFittle1982 ?
Jo