*Arc tbc* ---possible payton- guest link up?

[rockyfowler]

according to anc trees john guest 1861 in bct his father james charles guest 1831 marries jane payton 1835 oldswinford in bct 11 aug 1852

[peterd]

hi RF we dont take ancestry as fact so will run with what youve posted


john guest 1861

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =296253384


here john marrige look up no father ?


Marriage info
12 April 1880 St Andrew Dudley
John Guest- 18- bach- Bumble Hole- no father on cert only word deceased
Elizabeth Pearson- 18- spinster- Windmill End- Thomas Pearson- Boatman
banns
X both
Wit- James Guest X / Keziah Knott x


but is james a brother ?




so poss looking for census with these in



James Charles Guest c1831
Jane Guest c1835
John Guest c 1862
poss James Guest

[peterd]

if this is census james and jane

marriage

GUEST James PAYTON Jane 1852 Dudley, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 202/001/248


poss

1871 18 bumble hole, Dudley

James Guest 40 Puddler
Jane Guest 36
Eli Guest 15 millman
James Guest 13
Sarah Ann Guest 14
John Guest 10 Forge Boy ?
Joseph Guest 8
Rowland Hy Guest 6
Benjamin Guest 8 months


all born dudley

[peterd]

jane payton

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =931557261

[peterd]

poss

1881 Pilsley Lane Pilsley, Derby

Jane GUEST Widow (Head) 42 Sunbert, Worcester, Domestic Work
James GUEST 20 Dudley, Worcester, Coal Miner
Joseph GUEST 13 Dudley, Worcester, Colliery Labourer
Benjamin GUEST 11 Dudley, Worcester, Scholar

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next door

1881 Pilsley Lane Pilsley, Derby

Thomas DOWNING 23 Dudley, Worcester, Coal Miner
Sarah Ann DOWNING 22 Dudley, Worcester,
Benjamin DOWNING 4 Dudley, Worcester,
Mary Jane DOWNING 2 Dudley, Worcester,
Ann DOWNING 1 Dudley, Worcester,


poss mar

GUEST Sarah A DOWNING Thomas 1876 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/004/423

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1851 Porters field, Dudley

James Payton 54 - Nailor
Sarah Payton 54 - Nailor
Joseph Payton 32 - Nailor
Ellen Payton 27 - Nailor
George Payton 21- Nailor
Eli Payton 13 - Nailor
Mercy Payton 9 - Nailor
James Parkes 20 - Lodger - b Rotheram

others b Oldswinford

wonder where jane is ?

[peterd]

here james and sarah marrige on bcc

Marriage info by Jan
23 August 1818 Oldswinford
James Payton otp bach
Sarah Perkes otp spinster
banns
X both
Wit- James Cogshills X/ Sarah Payton


could sarah be a parkes instead of perks ?

[Jimmy]

ROLAND HILL GUEST.
Birth, 21 OCT 1864.
Christening, NOV 1864. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
Parents:
JAMES GUEST.
JANE.

Births Dec 1864.
GUEST Sir Rowland Hill. Dudley. 6c. 126.

West Midlands Birth I864.
GUEST Sir R H, Dudley, Dudley Register Office. DUD/097/181.

West Midlands Death 1879.
GUEST Rowland H, Dudley. Dudley Register Office. DUD/087/341.

[peterd]

poss more kids of james and sarah ?

extracted

MARIA PEYTON
Christening: 24 SEP 1820 Old Swinford, Worcester,

ELISHA PAYTON
Christening: 25 MAR 1823 Old Swinford, Worcester,

CAROLINE PEYTON
Christening: 11 NOV 1821 Old Swinford, Worcester,

JOSEPH PEYTON
Christening: 02 FEB 1819 Old Swinford, Worcester,

[rockyfowler]

PAYTON, James M 40 1801 Worcestershire nailer
PAYTON, Sarah F 40 1801 Worcestershire
PAYTON, Joseph M 20 1821 Worcestershire
PAYTON, Ann F 15 1826 Worcestershire
PAYTON, Sarah F 15 1826 Worcestershire
PAYTON, Richard M 13 1828 Worcestershire
PAYTON, Caroline F 11 1830 Worcestershire
PAYTON, George M 9 1832 Worcestershire
PAYTON, James M 8 1833 Worcestershire
PAYTON, Jane F 6 1835 Worcestershire
PAYTON, Mary Ann F 4 1837 Worcestershire
PAYTON, Eli M 2 1839 Worcestershire

Address:
Brom's Grove Road, Old Swinford County: 1841
Worcestershire

[Northern Lass]

I think that looks like it could well be ok
James Guest is on the 1871
then dies
so not on 1881

I think Sarah is a Parkes so that can be altered

Pete can you add this lot and connect up?

[peterd]

poss more kids of james and sarah ?

extracted

MARIA PEYTON
Christening: 24 SEP 1820 Old Swinford, Worcester,

ELISHA PAYTON
Christening: 25 MAR 1823 Old Swinford, Worcester,

CAROLINE PEYTON
Christening: 11 NOV 1821 Old Swinford, Worcester,

JOSEPH PEYTON
Christening: 02 FEB 1819 Old Swinford, Worcester,

nl do you think these kids are same james and sarah as they were married 1818 ?

[peterd]

updated bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =172626188

[peterd]

poss eli guest marriage

GUEST Eli PEARSON Sarah A 1878 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/005/14


link into yours mumbles ? put on for a look up