*Completed* --Elizabeth Guest b abt 1827/8

[Northern Lass]

We have an Elizabeth Guest here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =559361531
father on marriage is a Benjamin tradesman

I think it is this one here with father Benjamin
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =632729184

no clues on marriage as all Plants side

here is Benjamin father on census with Elizabeth

but is it our Elizabeth Guest that marries Isaiah


1841
Northfield Road, Dudley
Benjamin Guest 35 - Nailor
Hannah Guest 35 - n b in c
Elizabeth Guest 14 - Nailor
Joseph Guest 11 - Miner
Samuel Guest 8
Eliza Guest 6
John Guest 3
Mary Ann Guest 1
others b in c

1851
54
Northfield Road, Dudley
Benjamin Guest 46 - Horse nailmaker
Hannah Guest 47 - b Rowley
Samuel Guest 18 - Labourer
Eliza Guest 16 - Nailor
John Guest 14 - Coalminer
Mary Ann Guest 12
Septimus Guest 9
Elizah Guest 4
Matthew Guest 4
all b Dudley

[Jimmy]

ELIZTH. GUEST.
Christening, 12 AUG 1827. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Parents:
BENJN. GUEST.
HANH.

BENJAMIN GUEST.
HANNAH INGLEY.
Marriage, 04 JUN 1826. Halesowen, Worcester.

BENJAMIN GUEST.
ANN JONES.
Marriage, 17 JUN 1827. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

There are also these with father Benjamin,

ELIZTH. GUEST.
Christening: 11 SEP 1825 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester. Benjamin and Mary.

ELIZH. GUEST.
Christening: 17 AUG 1827 Kingswinford, Stafford. Benjamin and Elizabeth.

ELIZABETH GUEST.
Christening: 24 OCT 1830 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester. Benjamin and Mary.

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Jimmy so may or may not be our Benjamin and Hannah as parents

what about later census with the couple on any inlaws or rellies
with them that would give us a clue?

[Jimmy]

Is this Elizabeth.

1871. Netherton, Dudley.
Sarah Plant 44. Miner. looks like it could be Isiah on image.
Elizabeth Plant 46.
Dudley Plant 18.
Ann Plant 12.
Isiah Plant 9.
John Plant 8.
Esther Plant 9 months.

[Northern Lass]

Is this Elizabeth.

1871. Netherton, Dudley.
Sarah Plant 44. Miner. looks like it could be Isiah on image.
Elizabeth Plant 46.
Dudley Plant 18.
Ann Plant 12.
Isiah Plant 9.
John Plant 8.
Esther Plant 9 months.

Yes must be Jimmy
we dont have any of the other kids on Bcc yet for these 2

no name Benjamin there....hmmm

[Jimmy]

There is this Benjamin Guest who is a Engineer, which sounds a bit more like a Tradesman.

1851. Northfield Road, Dudley.
Benjamin Guest 50. born Rowley Regis.
Mary Guest 43.
Benjamin Guest 16.
Levina Guest 14.
Honar Guest 11.
Rachell Guest 7. Twin.
Ruth Guest 7. Twin.

All others born Dudley.

[Jimmy]

1841. Bumblehole, Dudley.

Benjn Guest 40. Engineer.
Mary Guest 35.
Sarah Guest 15.
Lidia Guest 15.
Eliza Guest 10.
Filice Guest 9.
Benjn Guest 5.
Levinah Guest 4.
Honom Guest 2.

[Northern Lass]

how weird...look at the addy Northfield rd

1851
54
Northfield Road, Dudley
Benjamin Guest 46 - Horse nailmaker
Hannah Guest 47 - b Rowley
Samuel Guest 18 - Labourer
Eliza Guest 16 - Nailor
John Guest 14 - Coalminer
Mary Ann Guest 12
Septimus Guest 9
Elizah Guest 4
Matthew Guest 4
all b Dudley

[Jimmy]

I have been trying to find Elizabeth Hatherley before she married Isaiah Plant.

I wonder.
1851. Windmill End.
Elizabeth Adderty 25. Head, Widow. born Dudley. Nailer.
Cornelius Nock 22. Lodger. born Rowley Regis.
Comfort Nock 21. Lodgers wife. born Dudley.
Cornelia Nock 11 Mo. son of lodger.
John Adderly 3. Son. presume son of Head. born Dudley.
Mary Brookes 29. Lodger. born Dudley.

West Midlands Marriage 1850.
NOCK Cornelius, PLANT Comfort, Oldbury, Christ Church, Sandwell Register Office. 12/1/228.

[Jimmy]

1861. Primrose Hill, Dudley.
Isaiah Plant 25. Coal miner. looks like 35 on image.
Elizabeth Plant 35.
John A Plant 14. (from previous marriage)
Dudley Plant 7.
Sarah Plant 4.
Ann Plant 3.
Betsy Plant 1.

All born Netherton.

[Dennis]

I always seem to be several steps behind everybody else, NL, my apologies! Yep, it's clearly Elizabeth Guest, m. Isaiah Plant at Christ Church, Oldbury 1851. I think she had married Samuel Hadderley or Hatherley at St Thomas', Dudley in abt. Dec. 1846. Whether there's any link with the Adderleys I don't know. Jabez Adderley married Harriet Commander in 1844 at St Thomas', daughter of William Commander and Comfort Plant, Comfort Plant was Dudley Plant's sister and our Isaiah's aunt. Phew!

[Northern Lass]

This is all good stuff

Jimmy please can you add the census info for Jemima and then for Isiah 51 and 61

so does it actually say John from prev marriage

in which case we can add him as son of Samuel Hatherley and jemima

is there a regis birth

and that name seems to change depending who hears it


Dennis thanks for that if you can add any info re the connections that would be fab

[Northern Lass]

So that Benjamin as father isnt we feel the Benj and Hannah I flagged
but might be the engineer one...?

[Jimmy]

This is all good stuff

Jimmy please can you add the census info for Jemima and then for Isiah 51 and 61

so does it actually say John from prev marriage

in which case we can add him as son of Samuel Hatherley and jemima

is there a regis birth

and that name seems to change depending who hears it


Dennis thanks for that if you can add any info re the connections that would be fab

No it dosn't say I just assumed it because of the age.

And I am not sure about which Benjamin it is.

[Jimmy]

Possible birth reg.

West Midlands Birth 1848.
HADDERLY John, Dudley. Dudley Register Office. DUD/032/223.