Arc tbc---Robert Smith born about 1907

[grangers14]

This person is from the Bugle dated Jan 1980. He is one of three characters pictured in the Blue Ball, Old Hill. He and his friends seem such lovely characters, I'd like to see if we could find their families.
It states he is 73, born Buck Street, Old Hill.
I looked on the 1911 census and there is a possible family.

11 Pear Tree Street, Old Hill, Staffordshire
Benjamin Smith, head, 24, Coal Hewers loader
Mary Smith, wife married 4 years, Gas hook maker
Robert Smith, son, 4,
Lily Smith, daur, 1
All born Rowley Regis

On BCC there is Benjamin Smith born 1888 from the same area, I wonderd if he connects up?
Jo

[peterd]

poss marriage

SMITH Benjamin TAYLOR Mary 1906 Cradley Heath, St Luke West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 20/4/315

[grangers14]

I'd seen that marriage Peter. Thanks Not able to check that out though.
Theres a couple of possibles for Benjamin in earlier census but not one I could pin point.
Shame I wanted to add a note on Bcc about the Bugle.
Archive this NL unless anyone else wnats to add anything.
Jo

[peterd]

I'd seen that marriage Peter. Thanks Not able to check that out though.
Theres a couple of possibles for Robert in earlier census but not one I could pin point.
Shame I wanted to add a note on Bcc about the Bugle.
Archive this NL unless anyone else wnats to add anything.
Jo

put the marriage on for a look up its sanwell someone might be going soon ?

[grangers14]

You know I thought it was just FreeBMD where I had seen the entry!
Thanks for making me take a second look!
Will add it now.
Jo

[Northern Lass]

Ok Jo it is on
Just for ref St Lukes Cradley Heath although is under Sandwell the actual register is at Dudley Archives
as is Old Hill Holy Trinity

flagging now to archive pending look ups

[grangers14]

Yes, thanks NL this can be archived for now.
Jo

[grangers14]

Could somone help go through this with me? Thing that makes me wonder is the address, marriage says both Old Hill but census shows Peartree and I'm not sure on where they would be.
From the marriage look up and Thanks

6 August 1906 st Lukes Cradley Heath
Benjamin Smith- 20- bach- miner- Old Hill - Benjamin Smith - labourer
Mary Taylor- 21- spinster- Old Hill- Mothers name Maria taylor( looked like Maria) no father s name on banns
both signed
Wit- Cornelious Jones/ Violet Guest

1911 Census
11 Pear Tree Street, Old Hill, Staffordshire
Benjamin Smith, head, 24, Coal Hewers loader
Mary Smith, wife married 4 years, Gas hook maker
Robert Smith, son, 4,
Lily Smith, daur, 1
All born Rowley Regis

Possible Census
1901 Census
69, Peartree Street, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Smith, head, 57, Coal Miner Hewer,
Eliza, wife, 54, Staple maker,
Mary Ann, daur, 21, Screwer Nut and Bolt
Alice, daur, 17, Odd iron Worker
Benjamin, son, 15, House ? Coal,
Maria, daur, 11,
Thomas Charles, visitor, 16, Erand boy at Cooper?
All born Rowley Regis

1891 Census
20 Peartree Street, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Smith, head, 45, Coal Miner
Eliza, wife, 44, Staple maker
William, son, 20, Colliery Labourer
George, son, 18, Coal Miner,
David, son, 14, Warehouse labourer,
Mary A, daur, 11,
John H, son, 9,
Alice, daur, 7,
Benjamin, son, 5,
Maria, daur, 1,
All born Rowley Regis

1881 Census
20, Pear Tree Street, Rowley Regis,
Benjamin Smith, head, 36, Coal Miner, Dudley
Eliza, wife, 34, Staple maker
Sarah J, daur, 15, Staple maker,
William, son, 10,
George, son, 8,
David, son, 4,
Mary A, daur, 1,
George Willetts, boarder, w, 82,
Emmanuel Willetts, boarder, 52, Nail maker,
Ruth Green, Boarder, 21, nail Maker
All others born Rowley regis

1871 Census
Pear Tree Street, Rowley Regis,
George Willetts, head, W, 72, Labourer at Furnace
Jane Priest, daur in Law, 19, Nail Maker
George Priest, grand son in law, 2,
Emanual Priest, nephew, 42,Nail Maker
Benjamin Smith, 27, Boarder son in law, Coal Miner,
Eliza, daur, 24, nail maker
Sarah J Priest, grand daur, 5,
John Homer, Boarder, 49, Nail Maker
All born Rowley Regis

George Willetts is possibly on BCC already...
I'll add another thread for Mary Taylor because I have looked but not typed it yet but that may be a bit muddled too
Any extra pair of eyes?
Jo

[grangers14]

I got the place names now
Pear Tree Lane is in Old Hill!

[dianel]

1871 Census
Pear Tree Street, Rowley Regis,
George Willetts, head, W, 72, Labourer at Furnace
Jane Priest, daur in Law, 19, Nail Maker
George Priest, grand son in law, 2,
Emanual Priest, nephew, 42,Nail Maker
Benjamin Smith, 27, Boarder son in law, Coal Miner,
Eliza, daur, 24, nail maker
Sarah J Priest, grand daur, 5,
John Homer, Boarder, 49, Nail Maker
All born Rowley Regis

George Willetts is possibly on BCC already...
I'll add another thread for Mary Taylor because I have looked but not typed it yet but that may be a bit muddled too
Any extra pair of eyes?
Jo

So you think it is possibly this George, here, Jo? ...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =284824608

It would help make sense of this very complicated family!

[grangers14]

Yes Dianel, that is what I was thinking. ??
Jo

[Northern Lass]

1867
SMITH Benjamin PRIEST Eliza Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/025/491

[Northern Lass]

Excellent Jo

that is Eliza Priest

have you the marriage for look up
then we can add Benjamin Smith to this lot

I think add it anyway it looks good

[grangers14]

Good!
I'll add it this afternoon.
Jo

[Northern Lass]

thanks Jo...well spotted all that...

stick the link when you done pls
then we can archive