*Arc tbc* --Parish/Elwell/Parsons
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*Arc tbc* --Parish/Elwell/Parsons
Nl,
Whilst inserting Harry Parsons and making connection to Ruth Stokes and Alice Parish I noticed that Harry and Alice were already on Bcc so have made these connections also.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =158401711
Further noticed a new twist to info about George Parish inserted by Linell and yourself as it appears that Lydia Parish ( wife of George who disappeared to USA) married ? again to a George Elwell
1891 Census Shelton Lane Hawne Halesowen Worcs.
George Elwell Head 53 Chain Striker born Workington Cumberland
Lydia Elwell wife 50 born Cradley Worcs.
Alice Parish Step Dau. 19 born Cradley Worcs.
George T. Elwell son 15 born Cradley Worcs.
Further noticed when tracking George Elwell back that he had a sister Martha who did not marry but had a daughter Ann or Annie who is also I believe on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =258417110
As Jan notes Martha is noted on wedding details as a single woman which ties up with Census details as follows:-
1851 Census High Town Cradley Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
William Elwell Head 47 Chain Maker
Ann Elwell wife 46
Sarah Ann Elwell dau 21
George Elwell son 14 Striler for Chain Maker born Workington Cumbria
Maria Elwell dau 12 Scholar
Daniel Elwell son 10
Martha Elwell dau 6
Phoebe Elwell dau 2
Whilst inserting Harry Parsons and making connection to Ruth Stokes and Alice Parish I noticed that Harry and Alice were already on Bcc so have made these connections also.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =158401711
Further noticed a new twist to info about George Parish inserted by Linell and yourself as it appears that Lydia Parish ( wife of George who disappeared to USA) married ? again to a George Elwell
1891 Census Shelton Lane Hawne Halesowen Worcs.
George Elwell Head 53 Chain Striker born Workington Cumberland
Lydia Elwell wife 50 born Cradley Worcs.
Alice Parish Step Dau. 19 born Cradley Worcs.
George T. Elwell son 15 born Cradley Worcs.
Further noticed when tracking George Elwell back that he had a sister Martha who did not marry but had a daughter Ann or Annie who is also I believe on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =258417110
As Jan notes Martha is noted on wedding details as a single woman which ties up with Census details as follows:-
1851 Census High Town Cradley Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
William Elwell Head 47 Chain Maker
Ann Elwell wife 46
Sarah Ann Elwell dau 21
George Elwell son 14 Striler for Chain Maker born Workington Cumbria
Maria Elwell dau 12 Scholar
Daniel Elwell son 10
Martha Elwell dau 6
Phoebe Elwell dau 2
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Re: Parish/Elwell/Parsons
nice work Mumbles can we link brother and sister up?
can you do that pls?
do you need anything to verify father as William?
or is it pretty sound
can you do that pls?
do you need anything to verify father as William?
or is it pretty sound
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Re: Parish/Elwell/Parsons
1875
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ELWELL George PARISH Lydia Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/032/466
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ELWELL George PARISH Lydia Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/032/466
Re: Parish/Elwell/Parsons
Other relevant Census details:-
1861 Census High Town Cradley Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Ann Elwell Head (Wid) 60 born Cradley Worcs.
Martha Elwell dau 15 born Workington Cumberland
Phebe Elwell dau 12 born Wolverhampton Staffs.
All Brickmakers
1871 Census High Town Cradley Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Ann Elwell Head (Wid) 60 born Old Swinford Worcs.
Martha Elwell dau 26 born Workington Cumberland
Ann M. Elwell Grd. dau 4 born Cradley Worcs.
Johanna ( or Ivehannah ) grd Dau 2 born Cradley Worcs.
1861 Census High Town Cradley Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Ann Elwell Head (Wid) 60 born Cradley Worcs.
Martha Elwell dau 15 born Workington Cumberland
Phebe Elwell dau 12 born Wolverhampton Staffs.
All Brickmakers
1871 Census High Town Cradley Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Ann Elwell Head (Wid) 60 born Old Swinford Worcs.
Martha Elwell dau 26 born Workington Cumberland
Ann M. Elwell Grd. dau 4 born Cradley Worcs.
Johanna ( or Ivehannah ) grd Dau 2 born Cradley Worcs.
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Re: Parish/Elwell/Parsons
I think that is safe Mumbles do add that and connect up Martha and george if you dont mind


Re: Parish/Elwell/Parsons
Nl, All inserted and amended as necessary
Re: Parish/Elwell/Parsons
Nl,
Slight problem as Linell has this Caroline as Parish but is Bennett on Census meaning Lydia possibly had her before marriage to George Parish. Could have been adopted later ?
1881 Census Graingers Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
George Ellwell Head 44 Gen. Lab.born Workington Cumbria
Lydia Ellwell wife 38 Nailer
Caroline Bennett dau 18 Chain Maker
Joseph Parrish son 14 Lab. (Chain)
Alice Parrish dau 9
Geo.T. Ellwell son 4
William Ellwell son 6mths
Rest born Cradley Worcs.
Slight problem as Linell has this Caroline as Parish but is Bennett on Census meaning Lydia possibly had her before marriage to George Parish. Could have been adopted later ?
1881 Census Graingers Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
George Ellwell Head 44 Gen. Lab.born Workington Cumbria
Lydia Ellwell wife 38 Nailer
Caroline Bennett dau 18 Chain Maker
Joseph Parrish son 14 Lab. (Chain)
Alice Parrish dau 9
Geo.T. Ellwell son 4
William Ellwell son 6mths
Rest born Cradley Worcs.
Re: Parish/Elwell/Parsons
Nl, Definitely Bennett as married an Emmanuel Shilvock as Caroline Bennett
and mother Lydia aged 72 living with them in 1911
SHILVOCK Immanuel BENNETT Caroline Stambermill, St Mark Dudley Register Office 004/001/170
and mother Lydia aged 72 living with them in 1911
SHILVOCK Immanuel BENNETT Caroline Stambermill, St Mark Dudley Register Office 004/001/170
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Re: Parish/Elwell/Parsons
mumbles wrote:Nl, Definitely Bennett as married an Emmanuel Shilvock as Caroline Bennett
and mother Lydia aged 72 living with them in 1911
SHILVOCK Immanuel BENNETT Caroline Stambermill, St Mark Dudley Register Office 004/001/170
Ok I have amended that and added note
now is she
dau of George though
I will add marriage for look up see what it says on father
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Re: Parish/Elwell/Parsons
mumbles wrote:Nl,
Slight problem as Linell has this Caroline as Parish but is Bennett on Census meaning Lydia possibly had her before marriage to George Parish. Could have been adopted later ?
1881 Census Graingers Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
George Ellwell Head 44 Gen. Lab.born Workington Cumbria
Lydia Ellwell wife 38 Nailer
Caroline Bennett dau 18 Chain Maker
Joseph Parrish son 14 Lab. (Chain)
Alice Parrish dau 9
Geo.T. Ellwell son 4
William Ellwell son 6mths
Rest born Cradley Worcs.
mumbles can you add this census pls too?

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Re: Parish/Elwell/Parsons
Hi NL and Mumbles, Caroline Parish/Bennett 1863 was born before Geoge Parish Married Lydia Bennett in 1865, don't know who the father is? Lydia's second Marriage to George Ellwell 1875 could be bigamous, as George Parish cleared off to the USA where he Married again, I can't imagine there was any legal divorce
Many thanks from Linell.

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Re: Parish/Elwell/Parsons
Have disconnected from George until we see what father is on marriage ...not that that means much
so shall we archive pending look ups?
so shall we archive pending look ups?