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*Arc tbc* --Parsons wrong marriage
I believe this is wrong Frederick Parsons reference 1911 Census showing him single and different name (entered by Farside)
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections
1911 Census 85, Long Lane Blackheath Worcs.
Mary Ann Parsons Head wid 64 born Stourport Worcs.
Frederick William David Parsons son (U) 32 Brewer born Blackheath Staffs.
Catherine Parsons dau 30 born Blackheath Staffs.
Josiah Ednam Parsons son 26 Fitter4 Lathe Work born Hill Parish Halesowen
John Thomas Parsons son 24 Cabinet Maker born Hill Parish Halesowen
the Frederick who married Sarah Withers may be son of Richard Parsons but I need to check my records
Can I amend after check of my records ?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections
1911 Census 85, Long Lane Blackheath Worcs.
Mary Ann Parsons Head wid 64 born Stourport Worcs.
Frederick William David Parsons son (U) 32 Brewer born Blackheath Staffs.
Catherine Parsons dau 30 born Blackheath Staffs.
Josiah Ednam Parsons son 26 Fitter4 Lathe Work born Hill Parish Halesowen
John Thomas Parsons son 24 Cabinet Maker born Hill Parish Halesowen
the Frederick who married Sarah Withers may be son of Richard Parsons but I need to check my records
Can I amend after check of my records ?
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Re: Parsons wrong marriage
I would like to check the marriage at archives before we amend
as where did info that Wm and Mary Ann Parsons are parents of this Frederick come from
did they have a frederick?
need that marriage info unless you have it already
which frederick did sarah withers marry?
was his father William
1901
30 Granville Road, Rowley
Frederick Parsons 23 - Wrought iron flaye? turner
Sarah Parsons 21 - b Halesowen
John F Parsons 3 months
other b Rowley
next door
31
William Parsons 59 - Nailmaker
Mary Ann Parsons 57 - Nailmaker - b Halesowen
Joseph Parsons 20 - Screw gas tube trade
Mary Ann Parsons 17 - b Halesowen
Lizzie Parsons 15 - Tip stamper - b Halesowen
Lilly J Parsons 11
Martha Parsons 7
others b Rowley
as where did info that Wm and Mary Ann Parsons are parents of this Frederick come from
did they have a frederick?
need that marriage info unless you have it already
which frederick did sarah withers marry?
was his father William
1901
30 Granville Road, Rowley
Frederick Parsons 23 - Wrought iron flaye? turner
Sarah Parsons 21 - b Halesowen
John F Parsons 3 months
other b Rowley
next door
31
William Parsons 59 - Nailmaker
Mary Ann Parsons 57 - Nailmaker - b Halesowen
Joseph Parsons 20 - Screw gas tube trade
Mary Ann Parsons 17 - b Halesowen
Lizzie Parsons 15 - Tip stamper - b Halesowen
Lilly J Parsons 11
Martha Parsons 7
others b Rowley
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Re: Parsons wrong marriage
Is a Frederick with a William Parsons and Mary Ann in 1891 prior to marriage
then we need to check that marriage
see if one that married Sarah is father Richard or William
cos then why would a Frederick and Sarah be living nextdoor to a Wm and Mary ann
esp if Wm and Mary ann have a Frederick

then we need to check that marriage
see if one that married Sarah is father Richard or William
cos then why would a Frederick and Sarah be living nextdoor to a Wm and Mary ann
esp if Wm and Mary ann have a Frederick

Re: Parsons wrong marriage
Nl,
I am positive wrong marriage and I have Census details to prove it as Richard Parsons born 1858 (married Phoebe Porter) had son Frederick born 1878 who disappears off Census in 1901 when married to Sarah Withers and Frederick son of Mary Ann is still single in 1911 and brothers and sisters tie up
If you wish I can put all Census details on here to prove but the bcc will take some sorting out as a numberr of connections have been made
I am positive wrong marriage and I have Census details to prove it as Richard Parsons born 1858 (married Phoebe Porter) had son Frederick born 1878 who disappears off Census in 1901 when married to Sarah Withers and Frederick son of Mary Ann is still single in 1911 and brothers and sisters tie up
If you wish I can put all Census details on here to prove but the bcc will take some sorting out as a numberr of connections have been made
Re: Parsons wrong marriage
Nl, Census Details:-
Family I)
1881 Census 105, Oldbury Road Blackheath Rowley Regis Staffs.
William Parsons Head 38 Grocer
Mary Ann Wife 34 born Stourport Worcs.
Ernest Alfred Parsons son Scholar 10
Florence Ellen Parsons dau 8 Scholar
Frederick William Ed. son 3 *
Catherine Parsons dau 1
Rest born Rowley Regis
* Ed is mistranscripted and is Dd
1891 Census Maltmill Lane Hill Worcs.
William Parsons Head 48 Rivet Factor
Mary Ann Wife 44 born Stourport Worcs.
Ernest Alfred Parsons son 20 Swage Work Bedsteads & Studs
Florence Ellen Parsons dau 18
Frederick W.D. son 13 Scholar
Catherine Parsons dau 11 Scholar
George A. Parsons son 9 Scholar
Josiah E. Parsons son 6 Scholar born Halesowen Worcs.
John T. Parsons son 4 Scholar born Halesowen Worcs.
Rest born Rowley Regis
1901 Census Victoria Hotel Maltmill Lane Hill Worcs.
William Parsons Head 58 Bed Stud Manufacturer Licensed Victualler & Brewer
Mary Ann Wife 54 born Stourport Worcs.
Florence Ellen Parsons dau 28
Frederick W.D. son 23 Brewer
Catherine Parsons dau 21
George H.. Parsons son 19 Peg Forger
Josiah E. Parsons son 16 born Halesowen Worcs.
John T. Parsons son 14 Scholar born Halesowen Worcs.
Rest born Rowley Regis
The Richard & Phoebe , Frederick Census details I will post later but as you can see Frederick was not married in 1901
Family I)
1881 Census 105, Oldbury Road Blackheath Rowley Regis Staffs.
William Parsons Head 38 Grocer
Mary Ann Wife 34 born Stourport Worcs.
Ernest Alfred Parsons son Scholar 10
Florence Ellen Parsons dau 8 Scholar
Frederick William Ed. son 3 *
Catherine Parsons dau 1
Rest born Rowley Regis
* Ed is mistranscripted and is Dd
1891 Census Maltmill Lane Hill Worcs.
William Parsons Head 48 Rivet Factor
Mary Ann Wife 44 born Stourport Worcs.
Ernest Alfred Parsons son 20 Swage Work Bedsteads & Studs
Florence Ellen Parsons dau 18
Frederick W.D. son 13 Scholar
Catherine Parsons dau 11 Scholar
George A. Parsons son 9 Scholar
Josiah E. Parsons son 6 Scholar born Halesowen Worcs.
John T. Parsons son 4 Scholar born Halesowen Worcs.
Rest born Rowley Regis
1901 Census Victoria Hotel Maltmill Lane Hill Worcs.
William Parsons Head 58 Bed Stud Manufacturer Licensed Victualler & Brewer
Mary Ann Wife 54 born Stourport Worcs.
Florence Ellen Parsons dau 28
Frederick W.D. son 23 Brewer
Catherine Parsons dau 21
George H.. Parsons son 19 Peg Forger
Josiah E. Parsons son 16 born Halesowen Worcs.
John T. Parsons son 14 Scholar born Halesowen Worcs.
Rest born Rowley Regis
The Richard & Phoebe , Frederick Census details I will post later but as you can see Frederick was not married in 1901
Re: Parsons wrong marriage
The other William & Mary living next to Frederick & Sarah in 1901 are already on bcc so farside has mixed their children up and doubled some of them:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =151146879
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =151146879
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Re: Parsons wrong marriage
Frederick and Sarah, and next door William ans Mary Ann, who looking at the 1881, 1891, they don't have a son Frederick.
Unless Fred was away from home on both census's.
1901.
Frederick Parsons 23.
Sarah Parsons 21.
John F Parsons 3 months.
Next door,
1901. Granville Rd.RR.
William Parsons 59.
Mary Ann Parsons 57.
Joseph Parsons 20.
Mary Ann Parsons 17.
Lizzie Parsons 15.
Lilly J Parsons 11.
Martha Parsons 7.
Frederick Parsons 23.
Sarah Parsons 21.
John F Parsons 3 months.
1891. 94, Gosty Hill.
William Parsons 49.
Mary A Parsons 47.
John Parsons 16.
Rachel Parsons 13.
Joseph Parsons 10.
Mary A Parsons 7.
Elizabeth Parsons 5.
Lilly J Parsons 1.
1881.Cockshutts Cottage.
William Parsons 40.nailer.
Mary Parsons 38.
Thomas Parsons 14.
Harriett Parsons 12.
Ruth Parsons 9.
John Parsons 6.
Rachael Parsons 3.
Joseph Parsons
Unless Fred was away from home on both census's.
1901.
Frederick Parsons 23.
Sarah Parsons 21.
John F Parsons 3 months.
Next door,
1901. Granville Rd.RR.
William Parsons 59.
Mary Ann Parsons 57.
Joseph Parsons 20.
Mary Ann Parsons 17.
Lizzie Parsons 15.
Lilly J Parsons 11.
Martha Parsons 7.
Frederick Parsons 23.
Sarah Parsons 21.
John F Parsons 3 months.
1891. 94, Gosty Hill.
William Parsons 49.
Mary A Parsons 47.
John Parsons 16.
Rachel Parsons 13.
Joseph Parsons 10.
Mary A Parsons 7.
Elizabeth Parsons 5.
Lilly J Parsons 1.
1881.Cockshutts Cottage.
William Parsons 40.nailer.
Mary Parsons 38.
Thomas Parsons 14.
Harriett Parsons 12.
Ruth Parsons 9.
John Parsons 6.
Rachael Parsons 3.
Joseph Parsons
Re: Parsons wrong marriage
1881 Census 93, Gosty Hill Rowley Regis Staffs.
Frederick Tibbetts Head 54 Grocer b.Rowley Regis Staffs.
Fanny Tibbetts Wife 55 b.Rowley Regis. Staffs.
Mary Darby Boarder (w) 68 Formerly Farmers Wife born Halesowen Worcs.
Phoebe Moore servant 15 born Dudley Worcs.
Frederick Parsons Visitor 3 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
1881 Census Gosty Hill Rowley Regis Staffs
Richard Parsons Head 23 Lab. in Tube Works born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Phoebe Parsons Wife 22 b. Dudley Worcs.
Mary Parsons dau 1 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
1891 Census 57 Coombs Wood Hill Worcs.
Richard Parsons Head 33 Tubeworks Pipe Examiner born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Phoebe Parsons wife 32 b.Netherton Staffs.
Frederick Parsons son 13 Tubeworks Errand boy b.Rowley Regis Staffs.
Mary Parsons dau 11 Scholar b.Halesowen Worcs.
Isaac Parsons son 9 Scholar b.Rowley Regis Staffs.
Joseph Parsons 6 Scholar b. Halesowen Worcs.
Fanny Parsons dau 4 Scholar b. Halesowen Worcs.
Hannah Parsons dau 1 b. Halesowen Worcs.
1901 Census 57 Coombs Road Hill Worcs.
Richard Parsons Head 43 Labourer inTubeworks Gosty Hill Staffs.
Phoebe Parsons wife 42 b.Netherton Staffs.
Mary Parsons dau 20 Dress Maker b.Halesowen Worcs.
Isaac Parsons son 19 Carpenter b.Gosty Hill Staffs.
Joseph Parsons 16 Fitting And Screwing b. Halesowen Worcs.
Hannah Parsons dau 11 b. Halesowen Worcs.
Phoebe Parsons dau 9 b. Halesowen Worcs.
Richard Parsons son 7 b. Halesowen Worcs.
Beatrice Parsons dau 3 born Gosty Hill Staffs.
Doris Parsons dau 1 born Gosty Hill Staffs.
1911 Census Gorsty Hill Road Dudley Staffs.
Richard Parsons Head 53 Toolmaker Iron Fittings Screwing Gosty Hill Staffs.
Phoebe Parsons wife 52 b.Netherton Staffs.
Isaac Parsons son 29 (M) Carpenter b.Gosty Hill Staffs.
Richard Parsons son 17 Iron Nut Finisher b. Halesowen Worcs.
Beatrice Parsons dau 13 born Gosty Hill Staffs.
Doris Parsons dau 11 born Gosty Hill Staffs.
Agnes Parsons dau 8 born Gosty Hill Staffs.
Jack Parsons Grd. Son 8mths. born Warley Worcs.
Frederick Tibbetts Head 54 Grocer b.Rowley Regis Staffs.
Fanny Tibbetts Wife 55 b.Rowley Regis. Staffs.
Mary Darby Boarder (w) 68 Formerly Farmers Wife born Halesowen Worcs.
Phoebe Moore servant 15 born Dudley Worcs.
Frederick Parsons Visitor 3 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
1881 Census Gosty Hill Rowley Regis Staffs
Richard Parsons Head 23 Lab. in Tube Works born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Phoebe Parsons Wife 22 b. Dudley Worcs.
Mary Parsons dau 1 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
1891 Census 57 Coombs Wood Hill Worcs.
Richard Parsons Head 33 Tubeworks Pipe Examiner born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Phoebe Parsons wife 32 b.Netherton Staffs.
Frederick Parsons son 13 Tubeworks Errand boy b.Rowley Regis Staffs.
Mary Parsons dau 11 Scholar b.Halesowen Worcs.
Isaac Parsons son 9 Scholar b.Rowley Regis Staffs.
Joseph Parsons 6 Scholar b. Halesowen Worcs.
Fanny Parsons dau 4 Scholar b. Halesowen Worcs.
Hannah Parsons dau 1 b. Halesowen Worcs.
1901 Census 57 Coombs Road Hill Worcs.
Richard Parsons Head 43 Labourer inTubeworks Gosty Hill Staffs.
Phoebe Parsons wife 42 b.Netherton Staffs.
Mary Parsons dau 20 Dress Maker b.Halesowen Worcs.
Isaac Parsons son 19 Carpenter b.Gosty Hill Staffs.
Joseph Parsons 16 Fitting And Screwing b. Halesowen Worcs.
Hannah Parsons dau 11 b. Halesowen Worcs.
Phoebe Parsons dau 9 b. Halesowen Worcs.
Richard Parsons son 7 b. Halesowen Worcs.
Beatrice Parsons dau 3 born Gosty Hill Staffs.
Doris Parsons dau 1 born Gosty Hill Staffs.
1911 Census Gorsty Hill Road Dudley Staffs.
Richard Parsons Head 53 Toolmaker Iron Fittings Screwing Gosty Hill Staffs.
Phoebe Parsons wife 52 b.Netherton Staffs.
Isaac Parsons son 29 (M) Carpenter b.Gosty Hill Staffs.
Richard Parsons son 17 Iron Nut Finisher b. Halesowen Worcs.
Beatrice Parsons dau 13 born Gosty Hill Staffs.
Doris Parsons dau 11 born Gosty Hill Staffs.
Agnes Parsons dau 8 born Gosty Hill Staffs.
Jack Parsons Grd. Son 8mths. born Warley Worcs.
Re: Parsons wrong marriage
Nl I do not know what Frederick was doing with Tibbetts family in 1881 but it could be same family you inserted:-
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Re: Parsons wrong marriage
Ok Mumbles if it needs altering you have my permission to amend as necessary
and thank you for spotting this and sorting it
and thank you for spotting this and sorting it
Re: Parsons wrong marriage
Nl, All corrected and I will add remaining Census details tonight,
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Re: Parsons wrong marriage
mumbles wrote:Nl, All corrected and I will add remaining Census details tonight,
Thank you very very much Mumbles

Ok think we can archive this so will flag to do so