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*Arc* --John Crawford born abt 1822

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This is a continuation from James Parkes thread, his wifes family.
Do you have anything to add here Steve?

1881 Census
5, Tettenhall Street, Dudley
John Crawford, Head, 59, Fender Maufacturer employing 4 men 2 boys,
Martha, wife, 60,
Harriet ?ters, gran daur, 14, servant
All born Dudley

House previous,
Fernden Andrew Shakespear, Head, 35, Whitesmith ?
Martha, wife, 34, painter unemployed
Benjamin, son, 13,
John Thomas Crawford, son, 5,
Martha Annie, daur, 3,
James, son, 1
All born Dudley

1871 Census
Tettenhall Street, Dudley
John Crawford, head, 49, Fender Maker emplying 4 men and 1 boy
Martha, wife, 50,
Ruth, daur, 19,
JohnT, son, 16,
James, son, 11
All born Dudley

House previous,
Andrew Shakespear, head, 25, ? ? Maker
Matilda, wife, 24,
Benjamin, son, 2,
Martha, daur, 1 month
All born Dudley

1861 Census
Constitution Hill, Dudley
John Crawford, head,39, Agent
Martha, wife, 40,
Mary A, daur, 20, Seamstress
Hannah C Parkes, daur, mar, 18, Seamstress
Martha, daur, 14,
Elizabeth, daur, 11
Ruth, daur, 9,
John, son, 6,
Matilda, daur, 4,
James, son, 1
All born Dudley

1851 Census
120 Dunn Street, Dudley
John Crawford, head, 29, Fender Maker
Martha, wife, 30,
M A , daur, 10,
Hannah, daur, 8,
Martha, daur, 4,
Elizabeth, daur, 1

1841 Census
Dunn Street, Dudley,
John Crawford, 15, Fender Maker
Martha, 20,
Mary, 1,
All born County
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Re: John Crawford born abt 1822

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Harriet ?ters, gran daur, 14, servant


I think that surname for Harriet should be Vickers.
Theres a marriage for Paul Vickers and Elizabeth Crawford in Jun 1866
VICKERS Paul CRAWFORD Elizabeth Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/024/310
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Ferdinano Shakespeare was b 1845, and was John Crawford's son-in-law, being married to his daughter Martha (Crawford) b 1846. As you can see from the census entries he did not seem fond of his magnificent baptismal name, and used several variations of it, including 'Ferden Andrew' and even 'Andrew' - perhaps he associated the name with that of great-uncle, also named Ferdinando Shakespeare (b 1814) who was transported to Australia for theft! There was one other Ferdinando Shakespeare, b 1760 - quite a number of people on this forum descend from him.

John Crawford & Martha Boden were married 1839, Oldswinford - don't know why, as they were both born in Dudley. John Crawford was born 1822, son of James Crawford & Mary Turner (m 1815 St Thomas, Dudley) - James is one of my 'brickwalls' : don't know where he came from. Likewise, Mary Turner - she was probably from Dudley, but too many of this name to sort them out.

I have traced quite a number of the families descendants - they are on bcc here:

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=34897&rand=283986552

The Crawford family were Fender Manufacturers in Dudley, and as mentioned in another thread, there still exists a large family grave in Dudley Borough Cemetery - have the incsriptions somewhere: must check the cemetery website to see if there are any other details! The grave is well maintained and I have seen flowers on it, so there are presumably some living relatives that I have never found. I presume John was buried in the Queens Cross Cemetery, as the new cemetery dates from about 20 years after he died. There are, of course, no stones in the old cemetery (actually, I tell a lie - there was one big one if it is still there, and there were some stones stacked against the wall at the bottom - perhaps it could be a project for forum members to record them if they are still there: there weren't many, and I don't think anyone has ever looked at them.

In the 1881 census entries the James Shakespeare aged 1 is my great grandfather - his brother John Thomas Crawford Shakespeare aged 5 was the father of Percy Shakespeare the well known Dudley artist.

The 1871 census entry is probably mistranscribed - here we have 'Andrew' Shakespeare (this was Ferdinando using is Andrew synonym) but the wifes name is wrong - this was Martha (nee Crawford) and not Matilda.

And.........wow, how did you find all those census entries so quickly??

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grangers14 wrote:
Harriet ?ters, gran daur, 14, servant


I think that surname for Harriet should be Vickers.
Theres a marriage for Paul Vickers and Elizabeth Crawford in Jun 1866
VICKERS Paul CRAWFORD Elizabeth Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/024/310


The LDS site has 'Vickers'for this census entry, so Elizabeth was John Crawfords dau, born 1850.
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Just noticed Hannah Parkes in that 1861 census entry - where was her husband?

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Here are Paul Vickers and Elizabeth (nee Crawford) in 1881, at 33 Oakeywell St:

Paul VICKERS Head M Male 33 Dudley, Worcester, England Boat Loader
Elizth. VICKERS Wife M Female 31 Dudley, Worcester, England
James VICKERS Son Male 7 Dudley, Worcester, England Scholar
Paul VICKERS Son Male 5 Dudley, Worcester, England Scholar
Elizth. VICKERS Daur Female 1 Dudley, Worcester, England
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Re: John Crawford born abt 1822

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His father,

1851 Census
Porters Field, Dudley
Mary Crawford, Head, w, 60,
John Masefield(?), lodger
All born Dudley


1841 Census
Bloomers Yard, Dudley
James Crawford, 47, Miner, Not born in County
Mary, 50,
William, 15, whitesmith
James, 10
All others born in County

Shame James wasnt alive in 1851 to see where he was from!
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sp1 wrote:Here are Paul Vickers and Elizabeth (nee Crawford) in 1881, at 33 Oakeywell St:

Paul VICKERS Head M Male 33 Dudley, Worcester, England Boat Loader
Elizth. VICKERS Wife M Female 31 Dudley, Worcester, England
James VICKERS Son Male 7 Dudley, Worcester, England Scholar
Paul VICKERS Son Male 5 Dudley, Worcester, England Scholar
Elizth. VICKERS Daur Female 1 Dudley, Worcester, England


Think this is him on the IGI:
Paul Vickers b 1 May 1847, bapt 10 Oct 1847, St Thomas, Dudley, s of James Vickers & Mary.

James & Mary Vickers also seem to have had (IGI):
Elizabeth 1851
Harriet 1856
James 1854,
all St Thomas, Dudley
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Just noticed Hannah Parkes in that 1861 census entry - where was her husband?

Steve


James was at home with his parents. Whats odd is the submitted entry for the marriage is 7th April, the census was done for the 7th April so that would have been their wedding night!
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grangers14 wrote:
Just noticed Hannah Parkes in that 1861 census entry - where was her husband?

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James was at home with his parents. Whats odd is the submitted entry for the marriage is 7th April, the census was done for the 7th April so that would have been their wedding night!
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Hey Jo

that's very odd!!..........and well spotted!
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Shakespeare and Holloway family
1901 Census
79, Cromwell Street, Dudley
Ferden Andrew Shakespeare, head, 55, Whitesmith
Martha, wife, 54,
Edward, son, 18, Labourer
Charles, son, 15, Brass Caster (fender)
Matha Ann Weeks, daur, m,
Charles Alfred Weeks, son in law, m, 22, Painter
All born Dudley


1891 Census
5, Tettnal Street
Ferden Andrew Shakespeare, head, 45, Whitesmith,
Martha, wife, 44,
John J C, son, 15, labourer,
James, son, 10,
Edward, son, 8,
Charles, son, 5,
All born Dudley

The house previous
5 Tetnall Street
Joseph Holloway, head, 30, Whitesmith
Harriet, wife, 24,
Joseph, son, 1,
Bessie, daur, 2 months
Martha Crawford, mother, widow, 70, Living on own means
Martha A Shakespeare, niece, 13,
All born Dudley
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Martha should be as Grand mother shouldnt she?
Harriet Vickers married Joseph Holloway 1889.
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Vickers family
1901
16, Campbell Street, Dudley
Paul Vickers, head, 53, Railway Labourer
Elizabeth, wife, 51,
John, son, 16, Blacksmith,
Joseph, son, 13, clay works labourer,
William, son, 11,
William Phillips, lodger, 15, bfrass polisher
John V Woodall, Grand son, 4
All norn Dudley

1891 Census
33, Oakeywell Street, Dudley
Paul Vickers, head, 42, labourer
Elizabeth, wife, 41
James, son, 17, Fender fitter,
Elizabeth, daur, 11,
Sarah, daur, 8,
John, son, 6,
Joseph, son, 3,
William, son, 1
All born Dudley


1881 Census
Oakeywell Street, Dudley
Paul Vickers, head, 33, Boat Loader,
Elizabeth, wife, 31,
James, son, 7,
Paul, son, 5,
Elizabeth, daur, 1
All born Dudley


1871 Census
22 John Street, Dudley
Paul Vickers, head, 23, Shearer at Iron Works
Elizabeth, wife, 22,
Harriet, daur, 4,
Mary, 1,
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I was just looking for James Crawford that you have as married to Sarah unknown. Theres a possibility he was married twice? First to Sarah Ann Lewis, Sep, 1880 and then to Alice Clayton Dec 1887 Stourbridge.
CRAWFORD James CLAYTON Alice Stourbridge Register Office Dudley Register Office 001/010/176


I'll add that for a look up to make sure.
There is also a death for a Sarah Ann Crawford, Dec 1886, 27, Dudley


1881 Census
34, Vicar Street, Dudley
James Crawford, head, 21, Fender Maker, Dudley
Sarah A, wife, 22, Wolverhampton

1891 Census
Broad Street, (Stratford House), Kingswinford
James Crawford, head, 31, Fender and Fire Iron Manufacturer
Alice, wife, 25, Kingswinford
John L, son, 9,
Gertrude, daur, 8,
Charles, son, 6,
Charlotte F Mason, serv, 20, general servant domestic, Whitechapel London

1901 Census
28, Summer Street, Kingswinford
James Crawford, head, 41, Factur in Fenders and Hardware, agent, employer
Alice, wife, 35, Kingswinford
JohnL, son, 19, Cerk Fender Factory
Gertrude, daur, 18
Charles, son, 16, Shoe maker
Ann Clayton, mother in law, w, 67, living on own means, Trysull
All others born Dudley
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