*UPDATE look up for LIN * --Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Jimmy
this lot on to check

check these bapts for abode and occup
parents Joseph Harper and Elizabeth (poss plant)
kids we know of are

1841
Jos Hasper 50. Labourer.
Elizebeth Hasper 50.
Louisa Hasper 15.
Rebaca Hasper 10.
John Hasper 10.
Ann Hasper 6.


ELIZABETH HARPER.
Christening, 14 JUN 1812. Cradley, Worcester.

WILLIAM HARPER.
Christening, 12 JAN 1814. Cradley, Worcester

JOSEPH HARPER.
Christening, 27 AUG 1815. Cradley, Worcester.

ANN HARPER.
Christening, 06 OCT 1817. Cradley, Worcester.

JOSEPH HARPER.
Christening, 07 OCT 1821. Cradley, Worcester.

SAMUEL HARPER.
Christening. 23 AUG 1824. Cradley, Worcester.
Death, 27 AUG 1824.

LOUISA HARPER.
Christening. 11 DEC 1825. Cradley, Worcester.

REBECCA SELINA HARPER.
Christening, 18 MAY 1828. Cradley, Worcester.

JOHN HARPER.
Christening, 30 JAN 1831. Cradley, Worcester.

CAROLINE HARPER.
Christening, 25 JUN 1833. Cradley, Worcester.

ANN MARIA HARPER.
Christening, 26 APR 1835, Cradley, Worcester.
Parents to all,
JOSEPH HARPER.
ELIZABETH.

[linell]

Hi NL and Jimmy, this could be Ann Harper born abt 1817 Cradley

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =400411420

Linell.

[Jimmy]

1851. Islington.
Robert Hackett 36. nail maker. born Halesowen.
Anne Hackett 36. born Cradley.
Henry Harper 17. Dos Son Orange Out Of Wedlock. born Cradley. looks like born out of wedlock.
Robert Hackett 3.
Simeon Hackett 2.
Abigail Hackett 11 Mo.

[linell]

Could be her Jimmy, I checked the Cradley Baps from your list above:-

All said ----------Joseph and Elizabeth Harper of Cradley

Elizabeth was just as above
Wm said Gun Barrell Forger
Joseph Gun Barrell Forger
Ann Father was Nailer
Joseph was File Hardener
Samuel Gun Barrell Welder
Louisa Gun Barrell Welder
Rebecca Selina Gun Barrell Welder
John Huckster
Caroline Huckster
Ann Maria Huckster

This doesn't help much, unless Joseph kept changing jobs

Linell.

[Jimmy]

1841. Islington.
Robert Hackett 25. nailer.
Ann Hackett 25.
Josiah Hackett 8 Mo.

Also same house,
Henery Hayd 7. Harper on image.

[linell]

I will have a look at the Vicar's Notebook later see if there are any clues in there.

Yes I have son Henry in my tree, he was born out of wedlock.

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Hi NL and Jimmy, this could be Ann Harper born abt 1817 Cradley

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =400411420

Linell.

ok I think we can dismiss this Ann harper from this particular couple
I looked up the bapt and if it is the one at Cradley 6 Oct father is a nailer
near upper end/overend Cradley it is I suppose overend but did look like upper end

so I will add this bapt as a poss...but dunno need more proof on that Ann Harper who married Robert Hackett
having parents Joseph and Elizabeth

[Northern Lass]

Could be her Jimmy, I checked the Cradley Baps from your list above:-

All said ----------Joseph and Elizabeth Harper of Cradley

Elizabeth was just as above
Wm said Gun Barrell Forger
Joseph Gun Barrell Forger
Ann Father was Nailer
Joseph was File Hardener
Samuel Gun Barrell Welder
Louisa Gun Barrell Welder
Rebecca Selina Gun Barrell Welder
John Huckster
Caroline Huckster
Ann Maria Huckster

This doesn't help much, unless Joseph kept changing jobs

Linell.

Oh heck didnt know you looked em up so did I...

Ok I think that this is quite helpful

I think the fact that William Harper b 1814 has father Gun barrel forger and then the ones we know like Louisa have gunbarrel forger
as father mean that they are same family
ie those with father gun barrel are same family

Then we have a John Harper b 1831 prob the one on cenus in 1841 father is a huckster so seller of wares
and then
Ann Maria Harper a Huckster too b 1835 again on 1841
so Joseph is getting older maybe switches occup

so I think he is a gun barrel forger and then huckster/seller/labourer on later ones
I will add to bcc with notes

so that means that the Elizabeth Plant I am adding in the notes as a possible
still not convinced but bit more of a possible

I will now flag this to archive unless anyone wishes to run with more

[linell]

Hi NL, didn't find anything in the Vicar's notes So not got any further information. Will leave it to be archived now.

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Look up for Lin done on this thread

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

all checks out

[Northern Lass]

Same thread Look up for Lin

adding it to notes only as not sure that it is Elizabeth Plant

so that is tbc

25 July 1808 St Thomas Dudley<br>
Joseph Harper otp bach<br>
Elizabeth Plant ots spinster<br>
banns<br>
Joseph signed/ X Elizabeth<br>
Wit - Jeremiah Dunn / Mark Bond

will add the bapts for Joseph and elizabeths kids

we can archive this then

[linell]

Many thanks for the look ups, whoever did it, thankyou.................shame about Elizabeth Plant, I would think it is her, she was baptised at Halesowen, so local, father was James, I think, I did look it up. Later from Linell.