*Arc tbc* --William Daniels b abt 1834

[Northern Lass]

I am trying to tie up the loose ends on this lot

can we find a death for this one
he is on the 1901 with John Rollason age 64

WILLIAM DANNELS
Christening: 19 OCT 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM DANNELS
Mother: JANE
Extracted

one of the wits at the marriage is a Joseph Daniels

but it seems like all the sibs aprt from Joseph are bapt 1834

so how old is our William
can we find him on the 1851 census
father is William a carter
. MARY ANN DANNELS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 OCT 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

2. WILLIAM DANNELS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 19 OCT 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

3. JOSEPH DANNIELS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 10 JUL 1825 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

4. SARAH DANNELS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 OCT 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

5. JAMES DANNELS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 19 OCT 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

We have this other William Daniels with Sarah but I have discounted that as our William
cos although he has a dau Mary there is no Alice with them on the 1881

[Northern Lass]

This is the other Wm Daniels

1881. 94, The Village.
William Daniels 56. General Labourer.Sarah Daniels 53.
James Daniels 22.
Mary Daniels 20.
Elizabeth Daniels 15.
Hannah Daniels 10.
Maria Moseley 13.

1901 Tump road RR
John Badham 33
Elizabeth Badham 35
May Badham 8
Bert Badham 7
Willie Badham 5
Gladys Badham 3
Bertha Badham 1
John Badham 2 months
William Daniels 76
James Mosley 42
Alfred Mosley 12


ours is here with that Alice that has mother Mary Daniels

1881 Census 45, Birmingham Road Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Ann Perry Head 66 (w) Nail Maker
Absalom Rose son 25 Rivet Maker
Elizabeth Rose dau.in.law 22 Nail Maker born Old Hill Staffs.
Mary A. Rose grd.dau 8mths. born Blackheath Staffs.
William Daniels son.in law 50 (w) Gen. Lab.
William Daniels grd.son 22 Gen. Lab.
Sarah Daniels grd.dau Nail Maker 18 born Old Hill Staffs.
Ellen Daniels grd.dau 13 Scholar
Abbess Daniels Grd.dau 1
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Note Absalom is Abraham on Transcription but Absalom on orig.

1901. 15 Mott St, Rowley Regis.
John Rollason 49. Rivet maker.
Mary Rollason 48.
Matilda Rollason 12.
William Daniells 64. Widow. Father in law. bricklayer labourer.

[Northern Lass]

This is William on BCC

please can anyone check this as I am losing it


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

[Jimmy]

1841. Village. Rowley Regis.
William Daniels 55. Nailer.
Jane Daniels 40. Not born in County.
Joseph Daniels 15.
Mary Daniels 14.
Sarah Daniels 12.
James Daniels 10.
William Daniels 7.
Jane Daniels 4.
Elizabeth Daniels 1.

All others born in county.

[Jimmy]

1851. Boston Rowley Regis.
William Daniells 68.
Jane Daniells 54. born Southampton.
Joseph Daniells 26.
Sarah Daniells 20.
James Daniells 19.
William Daniells 15.
John Daniells 8.

All nailers.

All others born Rowley Regis.

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Jimmy I think that is him with parents
so b abt 1834 is good then

I think that the Wm Daniels that married Rhoda Williams is the son of our William
I looked up that marriage and will post on a seperate thread
age fits for b abt 1860 and he calls his dau Matilda

I cannot see our Wm Daniels b abt 1834 on the 1871 can anyone?

[Jimmy]

I cant see him either, here is is mother in 1861.

1861. Daniels on image.

Joseph Piper 57.
Jane Damile 63. Boarder. Widow.
John Danisls 20.

[Northern Lass]

What do you think Jimmy re this lot and the previous threads

Do you think it is starting to fit?

I think that William Daniels b 1834 married to Matilda Rose
is the father of Mary Daniels-she is b abt 1864
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =461763834


she has a kid called Alice Daniels in 1880
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =655589937
Alice is on the 1891 in the Mole hsehold age 12 with a "Polly" think that is Mary Daniels
and also there is a Tilda age 2
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =233867711

Dont think that the William on the 1891 is the son of William b 1834 I think it is actually William snr b 1834 and the age is wrong
that way he is brother in law to Getha (Agatha) Rose

1891 Census 55 Birmingham Road Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Mole Head 40 Rivet Maker
Getha Mole wife 41 Nailer
Joseph Mole son 17 Rivet Maker
William Mole son 15 Lab. in Rivet Shop
Agnes Mole dau 8 Scholar
Frank Mole son 5 Scholar
Fred Mole son 3
? Mole son 1week
William Daniels broth.in.law 30 Lab.
Polly Daniels wife 28 Washerwoman
Alice Daniels dau 12 Scholar
Tilda Daniels dau 2All born Rowley Regis


Tilda is then Matilda Rollason on the 1901 census
with mother Mary and her hubby John marriage confirms Wm Daniels is Marys father and a labourer

1901. 15 Mott St, Rowley Regis.
John Rollason 49. Rivet maker.
Mary Rollason 48.
Matilda Rollason 12.
William Daniells 64. Widow. Father in law. bricklayer labourer.


does this sound correct to anyone

help!!

[grangers14]

Its confusing just reading it!
I just found the same families Jimmy did, but I was looking for his father as a carter, it has the names from the IGI though.
Jo

[Northern Lass]

Don't know how to explain it any more just updated my post above

I think that Tilda is the key she is in the 1891 hse of Joseph Mole
and
in the 1901 with mother Mary
Tilda then links to Alice and I have the certif of Alices birth which names Mary Daniels as ma

then that marriage to John Rollason names father as William

it all fits I think
but need that 1871
cos Mary should be on it

and where is Mary in 1881 her dau Alice is with her father William Daniels

[Jimmy]

I think it might help if we had the 1871 census for them.

[Northern Lass]

I think it might help if we had the 1871 census for them.

I can't see them at all any of them on the 1871
Matilda must die abt 1869 so perhaps they went off somewhere?

It would have been useful that 1871

[Northern Lass]

Flagging to archive unless anyone wishes to add any more

if anyone wishes to add the info on the bapts for Wms bros etc please do
parents are a Wm Daniels and Jane