ARC TBC - Great Grandfather Samuel John Hudson

[jesterhud]

Trying to find out more about my Great Grandfather Samuel John Hudson.

He was around the Hastings Sussex area from 1900-1911 when i am told he died whilst working on the railways, but i dont know where.

Cant find a birth record, marriage record, or death record, have no idea where he comes from or was buried.

Heres what i know -

Partner/Wife was Emma Somerwill born in Swimbridge Devon in 1871, no record of him marrying her but she dies as Emma Hudson in 1963, she had two illegitimate children in Devon in 1893 and 1896 before moving to Hastings C1897-1899.

They had 3 children together -

Samuel John Hudson born in 1899 in Hastings

Alice Minnie Hudson born in 1901 in Hastings

George Henry Hudson born in Hastings in 1906 - my grandfather

On the 1901 census My Great Grandmother Emma is shown in Hastings with her children but they are all shown as surname Somerwill despite the birth registers and certificates for the children showing the surname as Hudson.

On the 1911 Census they are all now shown as Hudson, Emma is shown as single.

Would like a birth record / marriage record and death details for him.

I have a birth cert for children Samuel Hudson and Alice Minnie showing him as the father and occupation as a Navvy, i have no birth cert for son George Henry, cannot find one anywhere.

[Maths girl]

Trying to find out more about my Great Grandfather Samuel John Hudson.

He was around the Hastings Sussex area from 1900-1911 when i am told he died whilst working on the railways, but i dont know where.

I have a vague memory of someone else trying to find out some info about an ancestor on the railways a few weeks ago and I referred them to ??? National Archives??? as I had just seen an article saying they had the old employee records.

This would have been before term started - anyone remember which thread it would have been on or is it my imagination/have I dreamt it ?

They might be a place for jesterhud to try if he hasn't done so already

[MarkCDodd]

Would that be the John Samuel Hudson born 1861 in Riston, Yorkshire.

He can be found in Riston, Yorkshire East Riding in the 1861 Census with father Joseph and Mother Mary Ann.

[MarkCDodd]

There is also a Samuel J Hudson dying in Eastborne in Sussex in 1927. His estimated birth date would be 1855.

[MarkCDodd]

A Samuel John Hudson married an Emma Rivers in 1907 according to the Derbyshire Registrar.

Year: 1907
Forenames: Samuel John
Surname: HUDSON
Spouse Forenames: Emma
Spouse Surname: RIVERS
Place: Derby
Description: St.Alkmund
County: Derbyshire
Country: England
Reg Office: 394
Register Entry: SA/09/082

[Jimmy]

Is this Emma in 1901.

1901.
Charles John Usher 30.
Constant C Usher 27.
Alice M Morgan 9.
Frank W Usher 5.
Harry G Usher 4.
William J Usher 1.
Emma Somerwill 27. Lodger. born, Swinbridge, Devon,
Else Somerwill 5.
Samuel J Somerwill 1.
Agill M Somerwill 2 8 months.

[Jimmy]

There are Railway accidents on this link.

http://www.blacksheepindex.co.uk/

[Jimmy]

Possible, right area.

Births Jun 1905.
Hudson George, Steyning. 2b. 245.

[jesterhud]

Is this Emma in 1901.

1901.
Charles John Usher 30.
Constant C Usher 27.
Alice M Morgan 9.
Frank W Usher 5.
Harry G Usher 4.
William J Usher 1.
Emma Somerwill 27. Lodger. born, Swinbridge, Devon,
Else Somerwill 5.
Samuel J Somerwill 1.
Agill M Somerwill 2 8 months.

Yes thats her , i have seen that from the 1901 census before, all the other answers so far i think are not right but
thanks for the responses so far.
The word in the verbal family history is that he died around 1911.

[Jimmy]

This is a long shot.
1901.
Jane Hudson 56. Head. Widow. born: Crewkerne, Somerset
Samuel Hudson 31. Son, born, Chatham, Kent, Excavator Navvy.
William Fuller 49.
Edward Williams 34.
William Robinson 38.
John Baldwin 39.
William Wright 22.
William Green 52.
Thomas Smith 38.

All others lodgers.

[Maths girl]

This is a long shot.
1901.
Jane Hudson 56. Head. Widow. born: Crewkerne, Somerset
Samuel Hudson 31. Son, born, Chatham, Kent, Excavator Navvy.
William Fuller 49.
Edward Williams 34.
William Robinson 38.
John Baldwin 39.
William Wright 22.
William Green 52.
Thomas Smith 38.

All others lodgers.

jimmy - where are they living in1901?

[Jimmy]

Forgot to put, Its got the Railway connection.

Railway settlement, Crowhurst, Sussex.

[peterd]

I have a birth cert for children Samuel Hudson and Alice Minnie showing him as the father and occupation as a Navvy, i have no birth cert for son George Henry, cannot find one anywhere.

what about this one ?

Births Dec 1906
Hudson George Henry Fulham 1a 338

[jesterhud]

I have a birth cert for children Samuel Hudson and Alice Minnie showing him as the father and occupation as a Navvy, i have no birth cert for son George Henry, cannot find one anywhere.

what about this one ?

Births Dec 1906
Hudson George Henry Fulham 1a 338

No thats not him, my Grandfather was defintly born in Hastings, i have the address he was born at.

[peterd]

what is the nature of the proof the address is correct ?