*Arc tbc* ---BERTHA TIBBETTS 1881

[Maths girl]

1881 Long Lane, The Hill

Edwin Toy 43 Groom domestic
Matilda Toy 42
Ann M. Toy 18 Nail Maker
James Toy 12 Scholar
Simeon Toy 10 Scholar
Edwin Toy 4 Scholar
All born Halesown

[Teifi]

Oh dear - this is a subject I hoped to bring up later ----

Benjamin TOY born 1882 Stourbridge, father Edwin, mother Matilda (Detteridge)

Can't find him at all on 1901 census, could there have been an error and misspelling of the name - Tay or Tye?? This happened with my own father's names so I know it can happen.

HOWEVER ------ grandfather reappears in 1905 with an 'e' on the end of his name and marries grandmother. My American cousin can cast no light on this mystery either.

So - you clever people where was he in 1901??????

[kdw]

1901 Hurst Green Cakemore
Edwin Foy Head 64 Farm Labourer
Matilda Foy Wife 63
Benjamin Foy Son 20 Farm Labourer
All Born Cakemore

[Teifi]

Blow me - I just can't believe it - that was one variant of the name I hadn't thought of.
This makes a mockery of the census if the enumerators can't read/spell!!

Thanks a lot however for this info - will be emailing America shortly.

[Maths girl]

1901 Hurst Green Cakemore
Edwin Foy Head 64 Farm Labourer
Matilda Foy Wife 63
Benjamin Foy Son 20 Farm Labourer
All Born Cakemore

Well found kdw

[kdw]

1871 Olive Lane The Hill Blackheath
Edward Tay Head 30 Groom
Matilda Tay Wife 34 Nail Forger
Ann Maria Tay Daur. 4 Scholar
Jane Tay Daur. 3
Simeon Tay Son 3 months
All born Halesowen

1861 Long Lane
Rosannah Toy Head Wid. 55 Nail Maker Born Cakemore
Edwin Toy Son 23 Labourer Born Hill
John Toy Son 19 Carter Born Hill

1851 Long Lane (Image is Toy)
Rosannah Fry Head W. 50 Nailer
Elisabeth Fry Daur. 26 Nailer
Hannah Fry Daur. 18 Nailer
Matilda Fry Daur. 16 Nailer
Edwin Fry Son 14 Nailer
William Fry Son 12 Nailer
John Fry Son 9
All born Hill

1841 Long Lane
John Toy 40 Nailer
Rosah Toy 40
Elizabeth Toy 17
Mary Ann Toy 9
Hannah Toy 7
Matilda Toy 5
Edwin Toy 4
William Toy 2
All Born in County

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1861
TOY Edwin DETHERIDGE Matilda Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/002/490

[Northern Lass]

excellent rite ahead of perhaps Teifi joining BCC can someone enter all this good info

dont want to waste it

[Annie]

Would you like me to add all the info to the BC tree Northern Lass I don't mind, normaly I gather the info then get pipped at the post , like I said to Rob It's because I am slow.

Annie

[Northern Lass]

Would you like me to add all the info to the BC tree Northern Lass I don't mind, normaly I gather the info then get pipped at the post , like I said to Rob It's because I am slow.

Annie

That would be great thank you Annie
what ever you feel is good relevant info
if you can add the link when you are done
and I think Teifi is contacting me next week re joining

[Teifi]

Well done and thanks Annie!

Would just point out that the accepted spelling of the surname is TOYE certainly from grandfather's marriage.

His father Edwin was listed on the marriage cert. as a farmer (a misnomer I should think) in view of his varied previous occupations! Anyway the address was Mott Farm, Hurst Green. I've found a Mott Street but does anyone know where the farm was?

[Northern Lass]

Well done and thanks Annie!

Would just point out that the accepted spelling of the surname is TOYE certainly from grandfather's marriage.

His father Edwin was listed on the marriage cert. as a farmer (a misnomer I should think) in view of his varied previous occupations! Anyway the address was Mott Farm, Hurst Green. I've found a Mott Street but does anyone know where the farm was?

Okedoke let's spell it Toye then I will change it

[Annie]

Northern Lass here is the link for Bertha Tibbett I have added some of the info that was posted and gone along with Edwin & Matilda Toy for Benjamins parents if it's wrong I will change them, not entered Benjamins siblings yet till you see if what is on looks ok.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... #moreinfo_

Annie

[Northern Lass]

Hi Annie
can you add the census for Joseph Tibbetts onto his notes as head of house rather than Berthas/or just delete it then from Berthas as think you have added to Joseph already
and add that marriage for edwin and Matilda in the body template and surname for Matilda
pls

and then add kids for Edwin
oh and that death for Bertha and that would be brill

when Teifi joins we can add her name to the ancestors
and she can add to the info to build up more on said ancestors

[Annie]

Hi Northern Lass I will do that adding & alterations to the Tibbetts.

Annie

[Annie]

I've done that Northern Lass just let me know if I have missed any.

Annie