*Arc tbc* --Eliza Round Southall

[Northern Lass]

1841. Mushroom Hill.
Thos Round 65.
Saml Round 25. Nail Maker.
Henry Round 5.
Hannah Round 65.
Abigail Round 25.
Sarah Round 3.

but that would make him b abt 1812-1816
Eliza is b abt 1829/1830

where is that Eliza Round on the 1841 if that isnt her here

1841. Baptist End.
William Smart 70.
Phadoes Smart 70.
And next house.
Sarah Round 59.
Mary Round 20.
William Round 15.
Eliza Round 9.

she should be on that 1841 with John Southall

[Northern Lass]

Look just noticed

William Round that married Phebe Parsons has a brother Samuel
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

not sure if that means anything

same sort of age as Sarah Round

uncle to her but born around same time ish...
what if it was his kid
he died
and the neice of Samuel took Eliza in?

[Jimmy]

A Round-- Southall connection.

1841.
James Southall 50. Nailer.
Sophia Southall 50.
Benjamin Southall 15.
Wm Southall 20.
Ruth Southall 15.
Joseph Southall 14.
James Southall 4.
William Southall 7 Mo.
Eliza Round 10.

2 houses away from. which we have,

William Round 70.
John Southall 25.
Sarah Southall 40.
Phebe Southall 8 Mo.

[Northern Lass]

A Round-- Southall connection.

1841.
James Southall 50. Nailer.
Sophia Southall 50.
Benjamin Southall 15.
Wm Southall 20.
Ruth Southall 15.
Joseph Southall 14.
James Southall 4.
William Southall 7 Mo.
Eliza Round 10.

2 houses away from. which we have,

William Round 70.
John Southall 25.
Sarah Southall 40.
Phebe Southall 8 Mo.

So looking more likely with the

1. 1841 census above

2. wits at marriage of Lot Russon and Eliz Round ie Edwin Price/ and then on later census a Susannah Davies nee Price

but is it her dau?
or did the family take her in?

[Jimmy]

If this is right John Southall, Eliza could have been staying with his Parents.

Submitted.

JOHN SOUTHALL.
Christening, 15 JAN 1815. Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
JAMES SOUTHALL.
SOPHIA.

[Northern Lass]

I agree Jimmy that looks good

I think that needs going on for his parents and will be confirmed by marriage look up
his father James
hers William Round
that is what I am hoping to see.

So we think that is Eliza so can leave the Smart alternative so Smarts out of the picture

Still leaves who Sarah Round is be funny if she was the wife of Samuel Round wouldnt it
so that Wm might even be her bro in law age 70 in 1841 living with them.

Why would Eliza name Samuel Round as father
is Eliza her mother

so frustrating

[Northern Lass]

rite I have added James Southall and wife Sophia
I believe that is Eliza 2 doors away possibly with her step gd parents.
and her poss mother Sarah Round.

but I dont know if Sarah Round is actually her mother
there is a submitted entry which we now believe to be incorrect for mother as a Sarah Smart

We are dismissing the Smart connection as on 1841 the Eliza there is with mother Sarah
1841. Baptist End.
William Smart 70.
Phadoes Smart 70.
And next house.
Sarah Round 59.
Mary Round 20.
William Round 15.
Eliza Round 9.

whereas ours is here

1841.
James Southall 50. Nailer.
Sophia Southall 50.
Benjamin Southall 15.
Wm Southall 20.
Ruth Southall 15.
Joseph Southall 14.
James Southall 4.
William Southall 7 Mo.
Eliza Round 10.

2 houses away from. which we have,

William Round 70.
John Southall 25.
Sarah Southall 40.
Phebe Southall 8 Mo.

So we still have the question
is Sarah Round her mother?

dunno

father on marriage is a Samuel Round nailer

there is a Samuel Round in the family Uncle to Sarah Round

any ideas

[Northern Lass]

rite got the notes on
so unless anyone has anything else to add will archive