*Arc tbc* --Eliza Round Southall

[Jimmy]

I can only see this one, submitted,

ELIZA ROUND OR SMART.
Birth, 31 OCT 1830. Netherton, , Worcester

Death, 22 JUL 1908.

Parents:
SAMUEL ROUND.
SARAH SMART.

but that would mean that Sarah Round didnt have father Wm Round
but he is with them on the 1841

Ok question why have we got this Eliza Round linked with this Sarah that married John Southall
it doesnt feel rite
what if her mother was Sarah Smart
and nothing to do with this Sarah Round

William Round could have been her father in law.

But where was Eliza in 1841.

[Northern Lass]

yes he could have been father in law
so did they have a Samuel?
any ancestry trees got alternative info?

I will add that marriagein 1840 for look up

[Jimmy]

1841. Baptist End.
William Smart 70.
Phadoes Smart 70.

And next house.
Sarah Round 59.
Mary Round 20.
William Round 15.
Eliza Round 9.

[Northern Lass]

1841. Baptist End.
William Smart 70.
Phadoes Smart 70.

And next house.
Sarah Round 59.
Mary Round 20.
William Round 15.
Eliza Round 9.

So hang on cos my head is spinning here
are we saying that this proves then that Eliza Round who married Lot russon should not be attached to Sarah Round at all
cos that is what I think

and we need to disconnect her from Sarah Round as this is her line

[Jimmy]

I don't know what too say.

Extracted.
WILLIAM SMART.
Christening, 25 MAR 1770, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
Parents:
SAMUEL SMART.
MERAL.

Submitted. Marriage.

William Smart
Christening, 25 MAR 1770. Dudley, Worcester
Parents:
Samuel Smart.
Morab Tronman.

Marriages:
Spouse: Phoebe Parsons.
Marriage, 28 OCT 1792. Dudley, Worcester.

[Northern Lass]

rite you have lost me

what are you saying?
say what you think
we are kicking it around.....
come on Jimmy you are normally rite

[Northern Lass]

So we still need to sort out Smart or Round for Sarah
I have moved the Russon connection to its own thread to stop it getting confusing

lets keep this one to finding out if Eliza Round with father Samuel Round has mother Sarah Smart or Sarah Round?

[Jimmy]

From Ancestry.

Sarah ROUND.
Birth: 1804 in DUDLEY West Midlands.

Father: William ROUND b: 1772 in HALESOWEN.
Mother: Phebe PARSONS b: 1777 in HALESOWEN.

[Northern Lass]

So do we have 2 then

William Smart marries a Phebe as on the 1841
Sarah dau is there as a Round Samuel has died and Eliza dau is with mother
and then
a completely different family

in 1841 William Round father of Sarah is with her and her new hubby John Southall

that is how I read it

and they both happen to marry parsons women?
wm smart m Phebe parsons
wm round m phebe parsons

I cant find any extrac marriages for Wm Smart snr and Wm Round snr to a parsons

[Jimmy]

So the marriage do's not say Samuel Round is dead.

25 Dec 1850 St Thomas Dudley
Lot Russon- 21- bach- miner- Netherton-Thomas Russon - dead- miner
Eliza Round- 20 - spinster- Dudley- Samuel Round- nailer
banns
X both
Wit- X Hannah Grainger/ Edwin Price.

[Northern Lass]

no but then not always recorded if dead

[Northern Lass]

I am disconnecting Eliza from Sarah Round until we sort this

[Northern Lass]

Ok who are these Davies


1861. Netherton Hill.
John Southall 44.
Sarah Southall 60.
Joseph Southall 18.
John Southall 15.
Sarah Southall 3. Grand daugther.
William Davies 24. Lodger.
Susannah Davies 23.

1851
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DAVIES William PRICE Susannah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/011/170

one of the wits was an Edwin Price he married Hannah Grainger the other wit

now they were wits at Lot Russon and Eliza Rounds marriage in 1850
Lots mother is a Sarah Davies

so this then links Sarah Round with John Southall to Eliza Round

I am lost

[Northern Lass]

Here is Sarah Round with John Southall
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

and
here is Eliza Round
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

can someone please sort this one....I am really lost on it
what do we do
what do we need

[Jimmy]

1841. Mushroom Hill.
Thos Round 65.
Saml Round 25. Nail Maker.
Henry Round 5.
Hannah Round 65.
Abigail Round 25.
Sarah Round 3.