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The family of Joseph by Hannah Stringer consisted or
1. Joseph, bap. 23 March 1734"^
2. Samuel, mentioned in father's will.
3. Thomas, bap. 7 March I74I"^
4. Benjamin, bap. 20 May 1744.
5- Matthew, bap. 6 May 1759.
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Joseph, bap. 23 March 1734"^ proved his father's will in 1784. He married 18 May 1761 Mary Greaves and had a son George bap. at Halesowen 12 April 1762 and a daughter Sarah, bap. 8 Dec. 1771 at Frankley. He was apparently the Joseph bur. at Halesowen 6 April 1813, aged 75 but if so his age should have been given as 78.
His son George, bap. 1762 married Elizabeth Foxell at Frankley 2 Dec. 1782 and had four children bap. there as shown above. George's stone at Halesowen shows that he and his wife both passed the fourscore years :
To the memory of
Elizabeth
wife of
George Grove
late of Hasbury
who died Sept' 2nd
1845 Aged 82
Also
the above
George Grove
who died July 27 1849
aged 87 years
Also
Joseph
son of the above
died June 8th 1856
Aged 65 years.
NOTE reguarding samuel mentioned in joseph will samuel was not christend at same place as brothers or not recorded the only prove samuel is son of joseph is in his will it was proven by a process of elimination samuel who married ester taylor is the son of joseph and hannah stringer
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2. Samuel (son of Joseph) Samuel described as a bachelor married 4 Feb. 1760, as the following considerations show, Esther Tayler who was bap. 29 May 1737 as daughter of Henry and Judith Tayler of ye Hill.
The case of Samuel presents some difficulty, because his baptism is not to be found at Halesowen like those of his four brothers, and the only proof that he was a son of Joseph and Hannah is the reference to him in his father's will as tenant at Frankley. Unfortunately that reference is no help as to date because the words Samuel and Benjamin in the
will are in large thick type and have been substituted for other names scratched out probably some time after
the Will was made in 1771 and before it was proved in 1784. It looks as though some time after 1771 the loan of 20 pounds and also the Frankley tenancy had been transferred from one son to another and the father had before his death altered the names accordingly. The erasure of the word said before Joseph also suggests that his name had been mentioned earlier in the Will.
At Halesowen the marriage took place 22 April 1767 of Samuel Grove and Susanna Parks, and they had a child baptized at Frankley 19 June 1768. At first sight it would seem clear that Samuel, the son or Joseph and tenant at Frankley, was identical with the Samuel husband of Susanna and father of the child baptized at Frankley in 1768 : but there is this insuperable difficulty that the Samuel, husband of Susanna Parks, was baptized 9 Jan. 1736"' as the son of William and Mary and died in 1816 aged 79,
The entries of his baptism, his marriage, date of burial and his age at death are all clear beyond question and fit in." Thus the identity is disproved, unless either
(a) the names of the parents were wrongly given in Jan. 1736 as William and Mary instead of Joseph and Hannah, or
(b) there were two Samuels who both married Susannas.
As to {a) a mistake is not likely, nay more cannot be suggested because the register records the marriage of William Grove and Mary Stephens on 25 April 1736 and the child Samuel's baptism follows in due course on 9 Jan. as son of William and Mary.
As to (b) there is no evidence of a second couple named Samuel and Susanna and therefore every reasonable probability against their exibtence. The conclusion therefore is, necessarily, that the Samuel son of Joseph and Hannah who at one time farmed his father's land at Frankley cannot have been the Samuel son of William and Mary
and husband of Susanna Parks who took their child to Frankley for baptism in 1768. That the latter
should choose that village church not far from Halesowen for the rite need cause no surprise, in as much as their kinsmen were living there and possibly they had other connections with Frankley.
We can therefore put on one side this Samuel son of William and Mary bap. 1736"' who married Susanna Parks on 22 April, 1767
The only other Samuels baptized 1720-60 are
(i.) Sam', s. of Thomas and Hannah 29 August 1742.
(ii.) Sam', s. of Joseph and Mary 13 November 1743.
The Samuel marriages are,
Sam'. G. = Rebecca Tayler 4 May 1734.
Sam'. G. = Esther Tayler 4 Feb. 1760.
Sam'. G. = Anne Baker 22 Dec. 1766.
Sam'. G. = Maria Andrews 20 June 1779.
Now (i) the son of Thomas and Hannah cannot well have been the husband of Esther Tayler because he was only 17 years and 5 months old from the date of his baptism when Esther was married, but he may have been the husband of either Anne Baker being then 24 or of Maria Andrews being then nearly 37, and similarly (2) the son of Joseph and Mary cannot have been the husband of Esther because only 16 years and 2 months old, but he may have been the husband of either Anne Baker being then 23 or of Maria Andrews being then nearly 36.
These two therefore must be eliminated (as Samuel s. of William and Mary bap. 1736 has already been) and the fact remains that some other Samuel not recorded as baptized at Halesowen must have been Esther's husband.
Clearly the happy bridegroom was Samuel, Joseph's son and younger brother of the Joseph bap. 23 March I734"5, whose baptism probably did take place at Halesowen but was through inadvertence never recorded. This conclusion seems incontestable to the writer after a careful and prolonged study of the register and the marriage is entered accordingly in the pedigree sheet, but it will be remembered that the conclusion is arrived at not of course by direct proof but by process of elimination of the three and only other Samuels whose existence there is trace of. One point more. As two Samuels married two Taylers in 1734 and 1760, the question might be asked,
May not the bridegroom of 1760 have been the son of the bridegroom of 1734 ? The family of Sam' and
Rebecca of Cradley were :
John, bap. 12 Ap. 1735, bur. as infant 12 Aug.
Phebe, bap. 10 Oct. 1736, bur. as infant 12 Dec.1742.
Ann, bap. 3 May 1740, bur. as infant 29 Sep.
Phebe, bap. 30 Dec. 1743.
There is no trace of any son Samuel, and so the question is answered in the negative.
Being thougher nl 
