These are some updates and date corrections for the Garratt line, these are extracted from the Rowley Regis transcripts held at Birmingham library,
and West Haddon transcripts held at Northamptonshire County archives.
WILLIAM GARRATT (GERRARD.) West Haddon Northants
Christening: 20 JUNE 1680
Buried 29 MAY 1739
Married ANNE (--.) Buried 24 OCT 1755. West Haddon.
DEBORAH GARRET West Haddon Northants
Christening: 23 SEP 1690
Married JOSEPH ALDRIDGE 24 JUNE 1716. West Haddon.
MARY GARRATT
Christening: 11 MAY 1707 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Married: Richard Green 29 SEPT 1733. Rowley Regis.
ELIZABETH GARRATT
Christening: 13 MAY 1709 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Married: John Adams 29 SEPT 1733. Rowley Regis.
WILLIAM GARRATT
Christening: 30 JAN 1711 Studley, Warwick.
Buried: MAY 21 1781 Rowley Regis
Married: Mary Woodhouse 6 NOV 1733. Rowley Regis
Mary Buried 26 JUNE 1777. Rowley Regis
ELENOR GARRATT
Christening: 4 MAR 1713 Studley, Warwick,
DEBORAH-HANNAH GARRATT.
Christening: 18 FEB 1749 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Married BENJAMIN HOMER 26 APRIL 1777 Rowley Regis.
WILLIAM-JOHN GARRATT.
Christening: 29 JUL 1753 Rowley Regis, Stafford.
PRISCILLA WEAVER chn 31 OCT 1756 Rowley Regis.
Married: 4 APRIL 1777.
JULIUS GARRATT
Christening: 07 JUN 1761 Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Married: Sarah (Sally) Higgins 9 APRIL 1786. Rowley Regis.
Witness: John Bach.
*Arc tbc* ---Garratt Line
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Re: Garratt Line
Thanks for that TWG
I have added notes to the ancestor on BCC
has anyone got the transcripts handy please just to see what it says on the last one the Julius Garratt
if 9 April 1786 or 1787
and this one
Christening: 18 FEB 1749 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Married BENJAMIN HOMER 26 APRIL 1777 Rowley Regis.
we have 1747
can we have a look
save me getting my fiche reader out
anyone got the transcripts handy
I have added notes to the ancestor on BCC
has anyone got the transcripts handy please just to see what it says on the last one the Julius Garratt
if 9 April 1786 or 1787
and this one
Christening: 18 FEB 1749 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Married BENJAMIN HOMER 26 APRIL 1777 Rowley Regis.
we have 1747
can we have a look
save me getting my fiche reader out
anyone got the transcripts handy
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Re: Garratt Line
Think that for Deborah Hannah it was birth 1747 and christening 18 Feb 1749. Possible, but hard to confirm birth date. Should maybe only be as estimate?
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Re: Garratt Line
Sorry I only extracted the dates from the transcripts.
Here are a few more Garratt dates for entry
WILLIAM-JOHN GARRATT. (b 1753)
PRISCILLA WEAVER chn 31 OCT 1756 Rowley Regis.
Married: 4 APRIL 1777.
Child of WILLIAM JOHN & PRISCILLA GARRATT
SAMUEL GARRATT.
Christening: 2 AUG 1778, Rowley Regis.
Dau. of SHELDON GARRATT.(b 1746)
HANNAH GARROTT.
Christening: 28 AUG 1778 St Thomas, Dudley.
Buried: 7 DEC 1788. Rowley Regis.
23 NOV 1791 a child of SHELA GARRATT buried. (no name given) Rowley Regis.
Anyone know which child?
Child of JULIAS(b 1761) & SARAH GARRATT.
A child of JULIUS GARRATT Buried 2 JAN 1787. (no name given) Rowley Regis.
Anyone know which child?
BATHENA GARRATT.
Christening: 13 OCT 1799. Rowley Regis.
Child of JULIAS (b 1786) & MARY GARRATT.
SAMUEL GARRATT Buried 29 MAY 1808, Rowley Regis.
All extracted from the Rowley Regis Parish Transcripts, Birmingham Library.
Here are a few more Garratt dates for entry
WILLIAM-JOHN GARRATT. (b 1753)
PRISCILLA WEAVER chn 31 OCT 1756 Rowley Regis.
Married: 4 APRIL 1777.
Child of WILLIAM JOHN & PRISCILLA GARRATT
SAMUEL GARRATT.
Christening: 2 AUG 1778, Rowley Regis.
Dau. of SHELDON GARRATT.(b 1746)
HANNAH GARROTT.
Christening: 28 AUG 1778 St Thomas, Dudley.
Buried: 7 DEC 1788. Rowley Regis.
23 NOV 1791 a child of SHELA GARRATT buried. (no name given) Rowley Regis.
Anyone know which child?
Child of JULIAS(b 1761) & SARAH GARRATT.
A child of JULIUS GARRATT Buried 2 JAN 1787. (no name given) Rowley Regis.
Anyone know which child?
BATHENA GARRATT.
Christening: 13 OCT 1799. Rowley Regis.
Child of JULIAS (b 1786) & MARY GARRATT.
SAMUEL GARRATT Buried 29 MAY 1808, Rowley Regis.
All extracted from the Rowley Regis Parish Transcripts, Birmingham Library.
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Re: Garratt Line
dianel wrote:Think that for Deborah Hannah it was birth 1747 and christening 18 Feb 1749. Possible, but hard to confirm birth date. Should maybe only be as estimate?
thanks Di I will change the christening to say 1749 and leaved the dob as an est
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Re: Garratt Line
Hi folks,
Was interested to see the name Sheldon Garratt appear. Does anyone know if the names Sheldon, Shildon and Shelah are interchangeable?
I have the birth cert for Samuel Garratt born 1842 (it is a typed one fron Sandwell) his fathers name is down as Shildon Garratt and mother is Hannah Garratt formerley Lees, but on Samuels marriage cert (scanned copy from Dudley) his fathers name is down as Shelah. All the census info I have has his father as Shelah too. Is it possible that Sandwell have made a mistake in the transcribing? Does anyone know how it is done? Would they check for me if I phoned them up?
Any advice gratefully received
Was interested to see the name Sheldon Garratt appear. Does anyone know if the names Sheldon, Shildon and Shelah are interchangeable?
I have the birth cert for Samuel Garratt born 1842 (it is a typed one fron Sandwell) his fathers name is down as Shildon Garratt and mother is Hannah Garratt formerley Lees, but on Samuels marriage cert (scanned copy from Dudley) his fathers name is down as Shelah. All the census info I have has his father as Shelah too. Is it possible that Sandwell have made a mistake in the transcribing? Does anyone know how it is done? Would they check for me if I phoned them up?
Any advice gratefully received
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Re: Garratt Line
Could just be how it was heard when they were writing down the name
with accents it ends up being anything!
I like to think that perhaps the vicars knew the family a little and so would know the person/name and the typical spelling.
But I suppose not all did.
Did you find a bapt for Shelagh?
I would think that is the name
with accents it ends up being anything!
I like to think that perhaps the vicars knew the family a little and so would know the person/name and the typical spelling.
But I suppose not all did.
Did you find a bapt for Shelagh?
I would think that is the name
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Hi cid,
It seems that the name Shelah was written in many versions. I have seen Shelah, Shelagh, Shilo, Sela, Shelly all for the same person.
It seems that the name Shelah was written in many versions. I have seen Shelah, Shelagh, Shilo, Sela, Shelly all for the same person.
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to only make once.
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Re: Garratt Line
cid wrote:Hi folks,
Was interested to see the name Sheldon Garratt appear. Does anyone know if the names Sheldon, Shildon and Shelah are interchangeable?
I have the birth cert for Samuel Garratt born 1842 (it is a typed one fron Sandwell) his fathers name is down as Shildon Garratt and mother is Hannah Garratt formerley Lees, but on Samuels marriage cert (scanned copy from Dudley) his fathers name is down as Shelah. All the census info I have has his father as Shelah too. Is it possible that Sandwell have made a mistake in the transcribing? Does anyone know how it is done? Would they check for me if I phoned them up?
Any advice gratefully received
Is that marriage certificate for Samuel Garratt and Maria Summers, cid?
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Re: Garratt Line
TWG1947 wrote:BATHENA GARRATT.
Christening: 13 OCT 1799. Rowley Regis.
Think her name is also written as 'Parthena', she is the daughter of Julius Garratt ~1761 and Sarah (Sally) Higgins, and married William Addleton 30 Oct 1820 Kingswinford.
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Re: Garratt Line
Hi Di,
Yes it is the marriage of Samuel Garratt and Maria Summers. I also have Samuels Birth Cert, but it has a different date to the one on the IGI. So think I'm going to go to archives to check that one out.
While we're on Garratts. Was Shelah married before? Was his and Hannahs eldest son born before they got married? He is down as John Lees Garratt on BCC born in 1830. (Shelah and Hannah married in 1831) He was baptized the same day as Samuel in 1844. Which makes him 14 when he was baptized. I know that this is not unusual but a lot of his other siblings were baptized before him, could it be that he was illegitimate and for some reason was baptized much later that his siblings?
And is Hannah Lees related to Shelah's mother Mary Lee?
I know that there has been a lot of research done by others on this family and I'm fascinated. Was it all done via Parish records?
Regards
Cid
Yes it is the marriage of Samuel Garratt and Maria Summers. I also have Samuels Birth Cert, but it has a different date to the one on the IGI. So think I'm going to go to archives to check that one out.
While we're on Garratts. Was Shelah married before? Was his and Hannahs eldest son born before they got married? He is down as John Lees Garratt on BCC born in 1830. (Shelah and Hannah married in 1831) He was baptized the same day as Samuel in 1844. Which makes him 14 when he was baptized. I know that this is not unusual but a lot of his other siblings were baptized before him, could it be that he was illegitimate and for some reason was baptized much later that his siblings?
And is Hannah Lees related to Shelah's mother Mary Lee?
I know that there has been a lot of research done by others on this family and I'm fascinated. Was it all done via Parish records?
Regards
Cid
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Re: Garratt Line
Hi Cid,
The 1830 date for the birth of John Lees Garratt was from an extracted IGI entry:
JOHN LEES GARRETT
Birth: 05 DEC 1830
Christening: 25 MAR 1844 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father: SHELAH GARRETT
Mother: HANNAH
Samuel's was from the same place. It will be interesting to see what you find in the archives.
The 1830 date for the birth of John Lees Garratt was from an extracted IGI entry:
JOHN LEES GARRETT
Birth: 05 DEC 1830
Christening: 25 MAR 1844 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father: SHELAH GARRETT
Mother: HANNAH
Samuel's was from the same place. It will be interesting to see what you find in the archives.
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Re: Garratt Line
Are we still running with this one?
Cid what did you find?
ought or nought!
I have a Garratt marriage to post shortly
Cid what did you find?
ought or nought!
I have a Garratt marriage to post shortly
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Hi NL
Took a copy of Marriage cert of Sheal Garratt and Hannah Lees. He is down as batchelor and she as spinster so neither of them married before. Both of this parish, no consent needed so must have been full age. Neither signed. Witnesses were Tho's Alles (registrar) and Thomas Lees x. Couldn't find baptisms I was looking for but think that was down to not being able to read my own writing
Will go back and have another look to see if I can throw any light onto why they got married after their eldest was born.
Cheers
Cid
Took a copy of Marriage cert of Sheal Garratt and Hannah Lees. He is down as batchelor and she as spinster so neither of them married before. Both of this parish, no consent needed so must have been full age. Neither signed. Witnesses were Tho's Alles (registrar) and Thomas Lees x. Couldn't find baptisms I was looking for but think that was down to not being able to read my own writing
Will go back and have another look to see if I can throw any light onto why they got married after their eldest was born.
Cheers
Cid
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Ok can you add that info to Shelagh if you get a min Cid be good to have that on BCC
So flagging to archive this unless otherwise advised
So flagging to archive this unless otherwise advised