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Re: What's in a Name?-this month lookin at *Tromans*

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Ok looking to see that this William has the father Simeon and mother Maria

1881
William TROMANS 28 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Elizabeth TROMANS 29 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Hannah TROMANS 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Elizabeth TROMANS 9 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Sarah TROMANS 5 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Simeon TROMANS So 2 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Phebe TROMANS 4 m Rowley Regis, Stafford,

26 Lawrence Lane, Rowley Regis, Stafford,


so a marriage? for Wm and Eliz abt 1870?

or on prev census? with parents? :?
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cannot find a marriage as yet

but if we think william parents are simeon and maria that living next door

Simeon TROMANS 56 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Maria TROMANS 57 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Roland TROMANS Son 25 Rowley Regis, Stafford,Chain Maker
Andrew TROMANS Son 5 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar



then might be easier looking for a Roland c 1856 in 61,71
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Re: What's in a Name?-this month lookin at *Tromans*

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Ok I am struggling on this.

We have this Simeon b abt 1824/25 cos of census info.

Then we got a bapt that may well be him 1825? but his sibs have a birth date on theirs and a bapt so that is a little different.
Mother only a Hannah on Simeons and Benjamin and Hannah on the other ones.

Have got Simeon on the 1861 age 37.
next door there is a John Tromans but this cant be the brother of a Simeon with parents benj and Hannah as that one is b earlier
the John next door is age 36

So can anyone find Simeon on the 1841 please prior to marriage

ok not convinced that this lot below are sibs to our Simeon..
JOHN TREWMANS
Birth: 28 FEB 1816
Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

MARY TREWMANS
Birth: 16 MAR 1820
Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

RHODA TREWMANS
Birth: 30 MAY 1822
Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

ANN TREWMANS
Birth: 19 APR 1818
Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
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post them two 1861 census so i can have a look see nl
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Re: What's in a Name?-this month lookin at *Tromans*

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Ok got em on the 1851
i think deffo 2 diff families so Q
was hannah married prev with Simeon
or
did she have him out of wedlock is that her married name

1851lawrence lane

Hannah Jevons h widow 46? nailmaker b RR staffs
John Jevons son un 21 b RR
Thomas Jevons son un 15
Hannah Jevons dau 9
Isaac son 6
Sarah dau 2
Simeon Tromans lodger 26
Mariah wife 27

so why is he down as lodger and not son?
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peterd wrote:post them two 1861 census so i can have a look see nl


hey Pete....they are on BCC xx :wink:
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HANNAH TROWMANS
Spouse: ANDREW JEAVONS Marriage: 10 SEP 1826 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Extracted marriage

Ok I think that is the mother of Simeon

marries a Jevons ...now is he the fathe of Simeon or not.

dont know who that john age 36 on census in 1861 is unless she was married prev this hannah and it is a brother.
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I think the 1861 is a brother

they call eldest Hannah.

1861 Lawrence lane RR
John Tromans age 36 b RR
Mary J Tromans wife age34 b RR
Hannah dau 14
Eliz 11
Mary Jane 7
Alfred 5
Phebe 2

So was Hannah the mother marred to a Tromans prev?
can anyone find marriage of this John?
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here that census

1861 Lawrence lane Rowley Regis
Simeon Tromans h 37 chainmaker b rr
Maria Tromans w 38
William son 9
Roland son 7
David son ? mths
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Ok put what I know on here...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =960795326

I am unsure if that John TRomans on the 1861 is a brother as why would she call 2 sons John.
But then this John calls his dau Hannah?

anyone see a marriage for a John Tromans and Mary J? 1847ish
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Not sure whether i follow all thats gone before but isn't this my John Troman and Sara Jane Gadd married at Clent see bcc
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Hi Suki :grin:

Do you know I think you are rite!

so his father James and mother Ann.

I dont think he is connected then to this one( ie Simeon Tromans) we have not a bro anyway
maybe a cousin living next to each other in Lawrence lane in 1861?
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can no one find them in the 1871 census john and mary j as not on 81 census ?
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1871
can't read this looks like Moth, Malt or Mott Street, Blakeheath
Alfred J Tromans 14
Edwin Tromans 8
John Tromans 46
Joseph Tromans 6
Mariah Tromans 4
Mary J Tromans 44
Mary J Tromans 17
Phebe Tromans 12
Ruth Tromans 2

Could be them
1881
43 Lomey Town (Royal Oak Inn)
Edwin Troman 18
Jane Troman 54
John Troman 56 - Beerseller.. :grin:
Joseph Troman 16
Miriam Troman 14
Ruth Troman 12
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1841 - New Street, Rowley Regis
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Andrew Jevens 35 Nail Maker
Hannah Jevens 35
Simeon Jevens 15
David Jevens 13
John Jevens 11
Thomas Jevens 5
Hannah Jevens 1
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