Completed with thanks --Weston query

[Northern Lass]

Ok I have done a look up for Pd

and the father for John Weston says John weston chainmaker

we have Samuel Weston and I think that is correct.

I think either I have copied down the father incorrectly or the entry was incorrect.

On census John married to Dinah puts Dudley wood in 1881
in 1851 Samuel weston and son John are in Dudley Wood- Samuel is a chainmaker

here is John
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

here is Samuel
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =241209073

the dau of Samuel Mary is I believe one of the witnesses and marries a John Southall in 1868

1868
SOUTHALL John WESTON Mary Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/004/458

going to recheck marriage of John and Dinah
and check Mary and Southall guy

but just wondered ahead of this if anyone had any more info?

Sparks do you have the marriage certif?

Marriage look up <br>
14 December 1873 St Edmunds Dudley<br>
John Weston- 23- bach- chainmaker- Dudley- John Weston- chainmaker<br>
Dinah Kendall- 19- spin- Dudley- William Kendall- chainmaker<br>
banns<br>
John signed/ Dinah X <br>
Wit- John Southall X / Mary Southall X

[Northern Lass]

Sparks!

talk to me!!!

[sparkstopper]

Hi. NL....Been away from Comp..

I have copy of Birth Cert. for Samuel b. 12 Sept 1874. stating mother Dinah,
formally KENDALL...reg. 20.9.1874.


I have on a 1991 Census..another John WESTON b.abt 1850. Dudley.
married to Jimmima..they have children Nehemiah and Samuel b. abt 1885.
they happen to be living next door to Myra b.1824 wife of Samuel b.1825.
But I can't see any relationship !! and I don't know who they are.

I have a copy of Samuel & Myra's Marr.Cert.


Sparks.

[Northern Lass]

Sparks it is the name John Weston I want to confirm

it says John on marriage
and should say Samuel

Marriage look up <br>
14 December 1873 St Edmunds Dudley<br>
John Weston- 23- bach- chainmaker- Dudley- John Weston- chainmaker<br>
Dinah Kendall- 19- spin- Dudley- William Kendall- chainmaker<br>
banns<br>
John signed/ Dinah X <br>
Wit- John Southall X / Mary Southall X

do you have this marriage cert?

if not I will look again at the entry at archives

but even if it says John I still believe it is Samuel

[Northern Lass]

Hi. NL....Been away from Comp..

I have copy of Birth Cert. for Samuel b. 12 Sept 1874. stating mother Dinah,
formally KENDALL...reg. 20.9.1874.


I have on a 1991 Census..another John WESTON b.abt 1850. Dudley.
married to Jimmima..they have children Nehemiah and Samuel b. abt 1885.
they happen to be living next door to Myra b.1824 wife of Samuel b.1825.
But I can't see any relationship !! and I don't know who they are.

I have a copy of Samuel & Myra's Marr.Cert.


Sparks.

so hang on a min..

I think Sparks you might have the marriages mixed up

ie if you say that on the 1891 this John Weston is living with a Jemima next door to Samuel and Myra then that could be the correct line!

1879
WESTON John HOMER Jemima S Tividale, St Michael Sandwell Register Office 21/1/2

look at the name Homer!

I think we might have a John Weston that married Dinah Kendall and that John Weston had father John Weston

and

I think we might have a John Weston that married Jemima HOmer and that father is actually the Samuel we want with mother Myra

[Northern Lass]

can someone post that 1891 census please

we need to sort this one out

[sparkstopper]

Will do......Also re Marriage lookup for John and Dinah 14th Dec 1873
witns..John/Mary Southall....
See photo in WESTON folder, Samuel and Myra's daughter Mary, died
in June 1869


1891 Census:

New Town Lane, Rowley Regis.

John WESTON hd. 41. Gen Lab. b. Dudley.(John, son of Samuel & Myra listed as Chainmaker 1871 Cen.)
Jimmima WESTON wife. 39. b. Rowley Regis.
Nehemiah WESTON son 7. Sch. b. Row.Reg.
Samuel WESTON son 5 Sch. b. Row.Reg.

Next Door:
Myra WESTON Hd. Wid. 67 b. Dudley
Edith WESTON Dau. S 32 Dressmaker. b.Dudley
Clara WESTON Dau. S 30 Dressmaker b. Dudley.

Also on Sheet.
HOMER family
FOSTER family
GRIFFITHS family
RAYBOULD family.

[sparkstopper]

Will do......Also re Marriage lookup for John and Dinah 14th Dec 1873
witns..John/Mary Southall....
See photo in WESTON folder, Samuel and Myra's daughter Mary, died
in June 1869


1891 Census:

New Town Lane, Rowley Regis.

John WESTON hd. 41. Gen Lab. b. Dudley.(John, son of Samuel & Myra listed as Chainmaker 1871 Cen.)
Jimmima WESTON wife. 39. b. Rowley Regis.
Nehemiah WESTON son 7. Sch. b. Row.Reg.
Samuel WESTON son 5 Sch. b. Row.Reg.

Next Door:
Myra WESTON Hd. Wid. 67 b. Dudley
Edith WESTON Dau. S 32 Dressmaker. b.Dudley
Clara WESTON Dau. S 30 Dressmaker b. Dudley.

Also on Sheet.
HOMER family
FOSTER family
GRIFFITHS family
RAYBOULD family.

I think the WESTON link could be a coincidence..as Myra, Jimmima were both HOMERS and the
HOMER family were next door !!!. Just a thought!.

[Northern Lass]

Will do......Also re Marriage lookup for John and Dinah 14th Dec 1873
witns..John/Mary Southall....
See photo in WESTON folder, Samuel and Myra's daughter Mary, died
in June 1869


1891 Census:

New Town Lane, Rowley Regis.

John WESTON hd. 41. Gen Lab. b. Dudley.(John, son of Samuel & Myra listed as Chainmaker 1871 Cen.)
Jimmima WESTON wife. 39. b. Rowley Regis.
Nehemiah WESTON son 7. Sch. b. Row.Reg.
Samuel WESTON son 5 Sch. b. Row.Reg.

Next Door:
Myra WESTON Hd. Wid. 67 b. Dudley
Edith WESTON Dau. S 32 Dressmaker. b.Dudley
Clara WESTON Dau. S 30 Dressmaker b. Dudley.

Also on Sheet.
HOMER family
FOSTER family
GRIFFITHS family
RAYBOULD family.

I think the WESTON link could be a coincidence..as Myra, Jimmima were both HOMERS and the
HOMER family were next door !!!. Just a thought!.

I am thinking that this John that married Dinah is the son of a John
You have said above yourself that this John with Jemima is the son of Samuel and Myra!

and if that Mary Weston, the witness at the marriage of a John Weston and Dinah, dies in 1869
then she is not sister of the John who has Samuel as a father is she.
So she may be the sister of the one with father John or another rellie

need that look up on the Jemima one
cos somat aint rite!

[sparkstopper]

Will do......Also re Marriage lookup for John and Dinah 14th Dec 1873
witns..John/Mary Southall....
See photo in WESTON folder, Samuel and Myra's daughter Mary, died
in June 1869


1891 Census:

New Town Lane, Rowley Regis.

John WESTON hd. 41. Gen Lab. b. Dudley.(John, son of Samuel & Myra listed as Chainmaker 1871 Cen.)
Jimmima WESTON wife. 39. b. Rowley Regis.
Nehemiah WESTON son 7. Sch. b. Row.Reg.
Samuel WESTON son 5 Sch. b. Row.Reg.

Next Door:
Myra WESTON Hd. Wid. 67 b. Dudley
Edith WESTON Dau. S 32 Dressmaker. b.Dudley
Clara WESTON Dau. S 30 Dressmaker b. Dudley.

Also on Sheet.
HOMER family
FOSTER family
GRIFFITHS family
RAYBOULD family.

I think the WESTON link could be a coincidence..as Myra, Jimmima were both HOMERS and the
HOMER family were next door !!!. Just a thought!.

I am thinking that this John that married Dinah is the son of a John
You have said above yourself that this John with Jemima is the son of Samuel and Myra!

and if that Mary Weston, the witness at the marriage of a John Weston and Dinah, dies in 1869
then she is not sister of the John who has Samuel as a father is she.
So she may be the sister of the one with father John or another rellie

need that look up on the Jemima one
cos somat aint rite!

1871 and 1881 Census has John (Dinah) son of Samuel and Myra WESTON listed
as a Chainmaker.....I don't think he would have changed his occupation to
General Labourer as listed for John (Jemmima) in 1891 Cens.....especially as John(Dinah) is
down as a Chainmaker on 1891 Census.
Sparks.....


Also John with Jimmima down as Breize merchant (Coal Dir). living Aston St. Tipton
1871 Census;

[sparkstopper]

Note of interest::

Birth Records show 3 John WESTONs born between Jan/Mar 1850
All in Dudley..Vol.XV111. Pages 259, 279, 307.

[Northern Lass]

Ok I have looked up the marriage for John Weston that married Jemima Smith Homer and ....
father is a Samuel

so we have 2 John Westons and I am switching the Johns around

John Weston with father Samuel married Jemima
and
John Weston with father John married Dinah

So this is now completed
and I will post the link shortly

[Northern Lass]

This links now to the Nehemiah Homer already on and so to Di!

I know its not Dereks now but it is interesting
still got to add marriage

and could do with that census adding for this John and Jemima if anyon can to the notes

Sparks you could do with finding out about the mother to your John Weston
stick a new thread on and we can have a delve

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =206472555

[Northern Lass]

this one....

1891 Census:

New Town Lane, Rowley Regis.

John WESTON hd. 41. Gen Lab. b. Dudley
Jimmima WESTON wife. 39. b. Rowley Regis.
Nehemiah WESTON son 7. Sch. b. Row.Reg.
Samuel WESTON son 5 Sch. b. Row.Reg.

Next Door:
Myra WESTON Hd. Wid. 67 b. Dudley
Edith WESTON Dau. S 32 Dressmaker. b.Dudley
Clara WESTON Dau. S 30 Dressmaker b. Dudley.

[grangers14]

This is my thoughts on John and Dinah for later census
1891 Census
Rose Hill
JohnWeston, head,41, Chain Maker, Dudley Wood,
Dinah, wife, 36, Cradley Heath
Samuel, son, 16, Chain Maker
Asken, daur, 13,
James, son, 12,
George, son, 9,
May, daur, 6,
Edith, daur, 1
All others born Dudley Wood

1901 Census
28, Tibbetts Garden, Rowley Regis
John Weston, head, 51, Chain Maker
Dinah, wife, 46, Chain Maker, Cradley Heath
Urishim (?), daur, 21, Chain Maker
George, sao, 17, Chain Maker
Mary E, daur, 11, Brierly Hill
John, son, 8, Quarry Bank
All others born Dudley Wood (wood crossed out)

27, Tibbetts Garden
Samuel Weston, head, 26, Chain Maker, Dudley Wood(wood crossed out)
Martha, wife, 26, Netherton
Mary, daur, 3 months , Cradley Heath
Joseph Cooper, boarder, 28, Coal Miner
Alice, wife, 28,
Maria, daur, 7,
Dora, daur, 4,
Frank, son, 2

Will add if its agreed.
Jo