Complete Stop with Emma CASTLE.

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Brick Wall reached with Emma CASTLE:
Can anyone find a marriage for:

Emma CASTLE b.abt 1850? poss.B'ham. &
William NICKLESS b.abt.1852. B'ham. Brassdresser. (My Gt.GrandPars.)

They had a daughter Emily Louisa b. 1874 B'ham.(my Grandmother)


Also death for Emma NICKLESS(Castle)
as William NICKLESS shown as Widower on 1881 Census
living wth Joseph & Elizabeth ROGERS & Fam. in Aston, B'ham.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =589057286

1891 & 1901 Cens. Show William Nickless b. 1852 B'ham Brassdresser
married to Mary Ann.......Poss.2nd marriage?

[cid]

Hi
Could it be that the surnames were spelt incorrectly?

Free BMD have the following marriages on same page.

William NICHOLAS
Emily CASTLE
June quarter 1873 Birmingham 6d 69

There is a death for an Emily Nicholls June quarter 1878 aged 32 in Birmingham 6d 118

Cid

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Hi Cid......I suppose it is possible, but I have a copy of Birth Cert.dated 3rd.Oct.1874.
for my Grandmother stating....father William Nickless ...(Nicholls is crossed out !!)
Mother Emma Nickless..(formally Castle)

Although those dates certainly tie up. Does it state an occupation ?

Can a 2nd marriage be found for William between 1881 & 1884, as on 1891 Cens.
William & Mary Ann's eldest child is only 7 yrs .....Williams age and Occup. both tie up on this census.

[Jimmy]

Extracted.

EMILY CASTLE.
WILLIAM NICHOLAS
Marriage, 31 MAY 1873, Saint David, Birmingham, Warwick.

[Jimmy]

Possible, Extracted,

William Nickless.
Father: William Nickless.

Mary Ann Alley.
Father: John Alley.
Marriage: 04 SEP 1881. St Andrew'S, Bordesley, Warwick.

[Jimmy]

Possible, Extracted,

William Nickless.
Father: William Nickless.

Mary Ann Alley.
Father: John Alley.
Marriage: 04 SEP 1881. St Andrew'S, Bordesley, Warwick.

This is not on Ancestry or FBMD.

[Jimmy]

Marriages Sep 1881.
ALLEY Mary Ann, Aston 6d [38]52.

The actual image looks like 352. on both Ancestry and FBMD.

Marriages Sep 1881.

NICKLISS William, Aston. 6d. 352.

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Marriages Sep 1881.
ALLEY Mary Ann, Aston 6d [38]52.

The actual image looks like 352. on both Ancestry and FBMD.

Marriages Sep 1881.

NICKLISS William, Aston. 6d. 352.

Hi. Is it usual to have such a name 'varient' as late as the 1880s?
The dates certainly 'tie up' as the marriage in Sept. would have been
after the 1881 census...and William was living in Aston at the time.

[cid]

Hi SS

Yes it is possible to have such variations. As most of the people couldn't read or write themselves they wouldn't know if the registrars were spelling their name correctly or not. I always use the soundex. And then there's still the possibitity that the person transcribing the data has read it wrong. I've found so many variations and errors in my own research, and I've not been doing it all that long........

Cid

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Thanks Jimmy/Cid......The dates are perfect and I can't find anything else!
Next step .....I'll apply for Mar.Certs. ...should have occupations on.

Cheers again. Sparks.

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Hi
Could it be that the surnames were spelt incorrectly?

Free BMD have the following marriages on same page.

William NICHOLAS
Emily CASTLE
June quarter 1873 Birmingham 6d 69

There is a death for an Emily Nicholls June quarter 1878 aged 32 in Birmingham 6d 118

Cid

Received Mar.certs for above..Williams age, occupation, father match....So name was probably
mis-transcribed.....Also his 2nd marriage to Mary Ann..matches age, occupation, father & fathers
occupation, although transcribed as Nickliss this time.......So thanks guys, will update BCC after
further check on Census.

[Northern Lass]

Hi Sparks is this now Completed then?
Can we archive it?
or do you need more info on this thread?

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All completed ..Thanks all. Regards. Sp.......