* TBC- Archive?* Holland Query

[Northern Lass]

I saw that one but don't know
He uses his middle name on the marraige

I don't know any other kids in the family

[Northern Lass]

Ok I am bit stuck on this one.
I don't think it is the Taylor one the counties don't feel right

The fact that I know for certain that Douglas Holland was living Perry Barr and I found this Douglas Holland at 269 Aldridge Rd Birchfields ( which is Perry Barr)
I think means it is my Douglas....maybe...
That being the case then that Douglas dies in 1977 was it ( sorry not got notes handy)
That one that died in 1977 was b 12 April 1891
that fits with the Isle of man one and checks out with the electoral roll info I have dau is named Clara and son George

but...
not Harold Raymond b 1931 and he is born abt 1930/31/32 for deffo
so that is very very strange...but
then I looked at that William B Holland b 1935 mothers maiden name Green

Births Mar 1935
Holland William B Green Birmingham

then I wondered about a Harold Green with a Green maiden name
and...

Births Jun 1932
Green Harold Green Birmingham N 6d 670




following is elec info...

1937: Not at that address
1938 : Not at that address

1945 : 269 Aldridge Road
Douglas Holland
Lily I Holland
Clara I Holland
Lily Kelly

1946/7: Same Address
Douglas Holland
Lily I Holland
Clara I Holland
Lily Holland
William B Holland
Lily Kelly

1949: Same Address
Douglas Holland.....J (means he was entitled to vote)
Lily I Holland
George Holland
Lily Kelly

1951: Same address
Douglas Holland...J
Lily I Holland
Lily Holland
George
Lily Kelly

1858/59: Same Address
Douglas Holland....J
Irene Weaver

can anyone sort those kids out?
are they kids?
are they adults above?
who are they?
who do they belong to?

I am not at all sure of the Green link at all just seemed odd

[grangers14]

Is the list who is in the household each year and who can vote?
And is "I" as a middlename?
Jo

[mallosa]

Yes Jo, it shows who was in the household each year. 'I' is the middle initial, 'J' shows a person is entitled to vote, so it looks like Douglas was the only one
Sadly no other info was given.

[mallosa]

1946/7: Same Address
Douglas Holland
Lily I Holland
Clara I Holland
Lily Holland
William B Holland
Lily Kelly

1858/59: Same Address
Douglas Holland....J
Irene Weaver

Not sure if this helps but found this.........

Name: Clara I Holland
Spouse Surname: Weaver
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1946
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1210

[grangers14]

Thanks Mallosa.
I had seen that marriage entry too.
I hoped the "I" would help, its also on for, Lily . Also I was wondering about Lily Kelly?

[Northern Lass]

Is the list who is in the household each year and who can vote?
And is "I" as a middlename?
Jo

I think it is important to know if that list on the electoral registers is actually the list of those who can actually vote which I think
Jo you are correct it its
not just those in the household.
That being the case all those are o18 or over

So are any of them registered in uk?
J means juror...on the notes I have

On the elec registers we have only those of voting age are on and you have to declare those age 16 or 17 born on such a year.

[Northern Lass]

Harold RAymond was doing nat service so prob age 18
and under 18 on previous ones and then not on register as not living there then

[Northern Lass]

Rite this is for me ma to find her step sister she aint seen for years!

so ...update

found Harold Raymond
born 1932 in Isle of man

also found Clara Irene holland b 1921
married harold B Weaver in 1946 as posted by Mally

There is poss a son tbc on that

Clara I think died in 2002 on ancestry

So I have ordered the death for Douglas Holland

so come on folks help me ma trace her step sister

[peterd]

who are you looking for, not been following this will look on 2003 electrol register ?

[Northern Lass]

Rite I am on the rite track
all the above seems to be checking out re the father as Douglas Holland from Perry Barr
and son Harold Raymond and dau Clara Irene who married a Weaver
I have just got the death cert for Douglas signed by Clara Irene Weaver

1977 death cert
and Clara now deceased accord to ancestry records I think in 2002
chasing another avenue now will let you know how it goes

thanks Pete for that Elec info

as we go into living people cant add much more at the mo
but if this all turns into a dead end could do with exploring one of the other kids with Douglas Holland and presume wife

[grangers14]

Is this completed NL?
Jo

[Northern Lass]

Yes archive thanks Jo