*Arc * --Josiah Hill

[Northern Lass]

I have done a look up and need to find the dob of this Josiah HIll
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

he is the father of Edith May Hill who marries Solomon Westwood in 1919
his occup is a publican
it doesnt say deceased
pub is Shoulder of mutton in blackheath

Edith is b abt 1898

I have had a quick look cant see em in 1901
so can anyone find this lot on maybe 1911, 1901

and then maybe Josiah earlier and a marriage etc

[Jimmy]

1901. in Oldbury.
Josiah Hill. 39. 1862 Worc Beech Lane Oldbury Worcestershire Publican.
Mary L Hill. 39. 1862 Warwick Birmingham Oldbury Worcestershire.
Annie Hill. 17. 1884 Worc Warley Oldbury Worcestershire Barmaid.
Joseph Hill. 14. 1887 Worc Warley Oldbury Worcestershire Juvenile.
Arthur Hill. 9. 1892 Worc Warley Oldbury Worcestershire Juvenile.
May Hill. 1. 1 Worc Oldbury Oldbury Worcestershire Juvenile.

[Jimmy]

1901. in Oldbury.
Josiah Hill. 39. 1862 Worc Beech Lane Oldbury Worcestershire Publican.
Mary L Hill. 39. 1862 Warwick Birmingham Oldbury Worcestershire.
Annie Hill. 17. 1884 Worc Warley Oldbury Worcestershire Barmaid.
Joseph Hill. 14. 1887 Worc Warley Oldbury Worcestershire Juvenile.
Arthur Hill. 9. 1892 Worc Warley Oldbury Worcestershire Juvenile.
May Hill. 1. Worc Oldbury Oldbury Worcestershire Juvenile.

Possible marriage.

Marriages Sep 1881.
CARTMALL Thomas. Birmingham. 6d. 91.
HILL Josiah. Birmingham. 6d. 91.
Plimley Mary Louisa. Birmingham. 6d. 91.
WRIGHT Charlotte. Birmingham. 6d. 91.

[Jimmy]

1881, possible.

Benjiman HILL Head M Male 51 Halesowen, Worcester, England Smith
Mary HILL Wife M Female 53 Northfield, Worcester, England
William HILL Son U Male 29 Halesowen, Worcester, England Farm Labourer
John HILL Son U Male 19 Halesowen, Worcester, England Smith Striker
Josiah HILL Son U Male 17 Halesowen, Worcester, England Farm Labourer
Hannah HILL Daur U Female 14 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Mary HILL Daur U Female 9 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar

Bissell Street.
Ridgacre, Worcester.

BENJAMIN HILL.
MARY STEEDMAN.
Marriage, 16 MAR 1856, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

BENJAMIN HILL.
MARY BINGHAM.
Marriage, 23 JUL 1854. Old Swinford, Worcester,

[Jimmy]

On the 1901 census it says Josiah was born Beech Lane.

1861.

Beech Lane,
HILL, Benjamin, head, M, M, 31, White Smith, WOR, Halesowen.
HILL, Mary, wife, M, F, 33, WOR, Northfield.
HILL, William, son, M, 9, WOR, Halesowen.
HILL, Benjamin, son, M, 7, WOR, Halesowen.
HILL, Jane, dau, F,6, WOR, Halesowen.
HILL, Thomas, son, M, 2, WOR,Halesowen.

[grangers14]

1901 Census
47, Henry Street, Oldbury
Josiah Hill, head, 39, Publican, Beech Lane Worcs
Mary L, wife, 39, Birmingham
Annie, daur, 17, Barmaid, Warley(?)
Joseph, son, 14, Warley(?)
Arthur, son, 9, Warley(?)
May, daur, 1, Oldbury
Henry James, boarder, widow, 78, retired Gun Maker, Handsworth

1891 Census
Moat Lane, Warley
Josiah Hill, Head, 28, Drayman for shor* B* Quinton
Mary L, wife, 28, Birmingham
Goerge H, son, 9, Quinton
Annie , daur, 7, Langley
Josiah, son, Langley

[Northern Lass]

Can anyone add the above if they get a min please

[grangers14]

I will add it.

[grangers14]

There could possibly be another Josiah on BCC. The other one has no children but Father as Benjamin and mother Mary Brookes by Mumbles
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=11062&rand=92850196

[Northern Lass]

There could possibly be another Josiah on BCC. The other one has no children but Father as Benjamin and mother Mary Brookes by Mumbles
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=11062&rand=92850196

well spotted Jimmy they could be one and the same

Well Jo thank you for offering

if you could add that info and at the same time we can work on seeing if we have a connection
if and when we prove it we can join up the tree

It would be great if we can join up the two bits
so can we find out if this Josiah Hill
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =186867557

is the same as this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =725406721

[grangers14]

by Jimmy » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:22 pm

On the 1901 census it says Josiah was born Beech Lane.

1861.

Beech Lane,
HILL, Benjamin, head, M, M, 31, White Smith, WOR, Halesowen.
HILL, Mary, wife, M, F, 33, WOR, Northfield.
HILL, William, son, M, 9, WOR, Halesowen.
HILL, Benjamin, son, M, 7, WOR, Halesowen.
HILL, Jane, dau, F,6, WOR, Halesowen.
HILL, Thomas, son, M, 2, WOR,Halesowen.

I feel Jimmy is right here. I'll add the other census here, see what you think.

[grangers14]

1871 Census
Red Hall Lane, Ridacre
Benjamin Hill, head, 41, White Smith
Mary, wife, 43, Northfield
William, son, 19,
Jane, daur, 16, Northfield
Thomas, son, 12,
Josiah, son, 7,
Hannah, daur, 4,

[grangers14]

1851 Census
Muttons, Ridgacre,
Benjamin Hill, head, 57, White Smith, Warley
Hannah, wife, 54,
Elizabeth, daur, 37,
John, son, 28, White Smith
Mary, daur, 24, Nailforger
Lucy, daur, 16, Nail Forger
Emma, daur, 13, Nailforger
Benjamin Hill, son, 21, White Smith,
Mary, sons wife, 23, Northfield
All others born Ridgacre

[Northern Lass]

So are they the same
can we join it up?

if we feel it is good do you fancy connecting it Jo?
save me doing it

[Northern Lass]

Just looked thru it it looks like a connection

the address is good beech lane our Josiah says is born and we find the one on BCC that is born Beech lane too
with parents Benjamin and Mary
The kids on the census are the ones we have on bcc

I am happy for the connection
do we agree?