*Completed* Priscilla unknown

[Northern Lass]

Who is this Priscilla?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =586325702

[gardener]

Found them easy enough in 1861:

1861 Dudley
John Garratt 30 nailer Netherton
Priscilla ditto 31 nailer ditto
Joseph ditto son 6 ditto
Elizabeth ditto 3 ditto
Hannah ditto 2mo ditto

BUT couldn't find them in 1871, or a marriage.
Then found these

1871 Dudley
John Lee 41 horse nail maker, Dudley
Zillah ditto 42, Sweet Turf
Joseph ditto 15 nail maker, Netherton
Elizabeth ditto 13 ditto
Hannah ditto 10 ditto
Thomas ditto 7 ditto
Eliza ditto 5 ditto
Silas ditto 3 ditto

so I wondered if that is them? With a possible marriage 1851
LEE John DUNN Zillah Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/001/418

Checked the IGI and there is an entry (not extracted mind)

13 Aug 1851 St Edmunds Dudley
John Lee to Zillah Dunn (her father given as Joseph Dunn and his as Shelah Garrat so I think this all hangs together.

[gardener]

1881 Dudley

John Lees 50 Horse nail maker Netherton
Louisa ditto 51 ditto
Hannah ditto 20 wrought nail maker ditto
Thomas ditto 17 roller in iron works ditto
Elisa ditto 15 wrought nail maker ditto

next door
Joseph Lees 37 Netherton
Rebecca ditto 23 ditto
John ditto 4 ditto

1891 Dudley
John Lees 60 Nailer Netherton
Zilah ditto 61 ditto

nextdoor
John Lee widr 37 Dudley
John ditto 14 ditto
Robert ditto 9
Rebecca ditto 3

and possibly Thomas
1891 Dudley
Thomas Lees 27 puddler Netherton
Alice ditto 24 Dudley


Dec qtr Death 1892 aged 62 Zillah Lee at Dudley

[gardener]

1851
Sweet Turf
Joseph Dunn 55 coal miner Dudley
Zilla ditto dau 21 nailer ditto
Jonas ditto son 19 whitesmith ditto

1841
Upper Netherton
Joseph Dunn 40 miner
Eliza ditto 15
Kezia ditto 13
Zillah ditto 11
Jonas ditto 9


Guess that marriage for Zillah Dunn needs checking to see husband's father's name, eh?

[Northern Lass]

Excellent Gardener

So we need a marriage for JOhn Lees parents
and a bapt if poss must have been born ahead of marriage ( if there is one)
and wonder if zillah dunn is on bcc will have a look

[Northern Lass]

HANNAH LEES
Marriages:
Spouse: SHEAL GARRATT
Marriage: 27 DEC 1831 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Extracted marriage

JOHN LEES GARRETT
Birth: 05 DEC 1830

Christening: 25 MAR 1844 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

Parents:
Father: SHELAH GARRETT Mother: HANNAH
Extracted

[Northern Lass]

So he was bapt as a Garratt
but born ahead of Marriage

married as a Lees

used name Garratt in one census
but then changed to Lees

wonder what his kids were regis as
can we find that
I like them to go on BCC as names regis or bapt in with accompanying notes for more info

[Northern Lass]

1851
Sweet Turf
Joseph Dunn 55 coal miner Dudley
Zilla ditto dau 21 nailer ditto
Jonas ditto son 19 whitesmith ditto

1841
Upper Netherton
Joseph Dunn 40 miner
Eliza ditto 15
Kezia ditto 13
Zillah ditto 11
Jonas ditto 9

Guess that marriage for Zillah Dunn needs checking to see husband's father's name, eh?

I think we have this Joseph on site already with those biblical names for kids as sibs
but need to confirm her parents but I think Joseph is her father

so with that in mind is this Joseph ?
how can we prove it? and then we can join up the tree

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =244879519

the name Zillah is deffo in the family
this Josephs br Theophollis his son Richard calls his kid Zillah
the area is good Netherton

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =526631442

can we have a look see what we think please need help here

[gardener]

I think we have this Joseph on site already with those biblical names for kids as sibs
but need to confirm her parents but I think Joseph is her father

so with that in mind is this Joseph ?
how can we prove it? and then we can join up the tree

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =244879519

the name Zillah is deffo in the family
this Josephs br Theophollis his son Richard calls his kid Zillah
the area is good Netherton

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =526631442

can we have a look see what we think please need help here

I don't think that is the same one because that one left a will naming Theophollis and his sisters but no mention of a Joseph. See http://www.blackcountryhistory.org

[Northern Lass]

Bit lost on this

do you mean that James Dunn left a will with no mention of a Joseph?

Who left a will?

James has son s Theophillis and a Joseph

so why cant it be that Joseph?

[Northern Lass]

So all the other kids are in the will except this Joseph?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

confused now

should this Joseph be with this lot?
Rhoda isnt down in notes as left anything either
not looked at will
can never find those things on that site


Probate (25 July 1835) of the will (dated 27 May 1834) of James Dunn of Windmill End, parish of Dudley, Worcs., nailer;

[gardener]

I just mean that since the Joseph Dunn bpt 1798 (son of James and Prudence) is not mentioned in James' will then possibly he died young (Joseph) so not likely to be the same Joseph who married and was father of Zilla et al. There are plenty of other Joseph Dunn bpt around that time and it could be one of those.

[Northern Lass]

hmmm gottcha

oh well

think this is completed now thanks for all the help we got to sort quite a lot on that one

[gardener]

The IGI has a submitted entry for Joseph Dunn bpt 9 April 1797 at Brierley Hill, parents Thomas Dunn and Mary Webb. That might be him as some of Joseph's kids seem to be baptised at Brierley Hill eg Keziah in 1827. Then again it might not.
There is a tree here with Joseph's kids on - great names! http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/738662 ... -877314611