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*Arc * -James Barnsley

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Rite need the wife of this James Barnsley he is a bricklayer on son William Barnsleys marriage in 1856

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =563197279

so can we find William with father James prior to Wms marriage
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Just noticed we have one on already could this be our James
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =276076778

is this one a bricklayer
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Northern Lass wrote:Just noticed we have one on already could this be our James
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =276076778

is this one a bricklayer


No, it's a different James I think according to this..

1851: Meeting St, Oldbury
James Barnsley 41 Head Coalminer
Rebecca Barnsley 36

John Barnsley 14
James Barnsley 12
Martha Barnsley 9
Ann M Barnsley 7
Thomas Barnsley 1

..and William (Son) isn't there aged 10
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mallosa wrote:
Northern Lass wrote:Just noticed we have one on already could this be our James
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =276076778

is this one a bricklayer


No, it's a different James I think according to this..

1851: Meeting St, Oldbury
James Barnsley 41 Head Coalminer
Rebecca Barnsley 36

John Barnsley 14
James Barnsley 12
Martha Barnsley 9
Ann M Barnsley 7
Thomas Barnsley 1

..and William (Son) isn't there aged 10


do you fancy adding that info to that James then darling Mally
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:roll: Done!

1861: Albert St, Oldbury, Staffs
James Barnsley 53 Head Coalminer
Rebecca Barnsley 46 Wife
John Barnsley 24 Son U Coalminer
James Barnsley 22 Son U Coalminer
Matha Coal 19 Dau M
Ann Barnsley 17 Dau
Thomas Barnsley 11 Son
Richard Barnsley 6 Son
Maria Barnsley 4 Dau
all born Oldbury, Worc

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Looks like James has died..

1871: 10 Colliers Row, Oldbury, Staffordshire
Rebecca Barnsley 55 Head Wid
James Barnsley 38 Son U Miner
Thomas Barnsley 21 Son U Miner
Richard Barnsley 16 Son Iron Worker
Maria Barnsley 14 Dau
all born Oldbury, Worc

Have added up to here for this family ..here
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poss

WILLIAM BARNSLEY
Christening: 18 JAN 1829 Donnington Wood, Shropshire,

father: JAMES BARNSLEY
Mother: ELLEN
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Poss Marr

JAMES BARNSLEY

Marriage:
Spouse: ELENOR WARD
Marriage: 24 JUL 1826 Shifnal, Shropshire
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here caroline in 1881 with william with matilda from here first marriage and benjamin from his first marriage


1881 65 Club Building Rowley Regis,

William WESTWOOD 47 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Chain Maker
Caroline WESTWOOD 41 Dudley, Worcester, England Chain Maker
Benjamin WESTWOOD 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Chain Maker
Ellen WESTWOOD 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Sarah WESTWOOD 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Joseph WESTWOOD 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Caroline WESTWOOD 3 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Hannah WESTWOOD 1 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Matilda BARNSLEY Daur In Law 17 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Chain Maker
Samuel WESTWOOD Lodger U26 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Chain Maker



anyone find caroline westwood in 1871 with matilda barnsley 7 and poss other barnsley kids ?
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submitted

Matilda Barnsley
Birth: 09 APR 1863
Christening: 05 MAY 1878 Reddall-Hill, , Stafford,

Father: William Barnsley
Mother: Caroline



Elizabeth Barnsley
Birth: 15 JAN 1860
Christening: 11 APR 1875 Reddall-Hill, , Stafford,

Father: William Barnsley
Mother: Caroline
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I have this:- In 1871 three Barnsley children are in William and Caroline's household. Elizabeth Barnsley aged 12, Ann Barnsley aged 10, and Matilda aged 7. Club Buildings Cradley Heath. Linell.
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Possibles
1841 Shiffnal Shropshire
Thomas Ward 65 Miner
James Barnsley 35 Bricklayer
Helen Barnsley 30
William Barnsley 12
Ann Barnsley 10
Eliza Barnsley 10
All born in County

1851 Shiffnal Shropshire
James Barnsley 47 Head Bricklayer
Ellen Barnsley 46 Eliza Barnsley 16
Thomas Barnsley 6
Isaac Barnsley 35 Brother
Martha Farnal 22 Visitor
All born Snedshill Shropshire

1861 Shifnal Shropshire
James Barnsley 36 Image says 56 Bricklayer
Ellen Barnsley 55
Thomas Barnsley 16
John Barnsley 7
All born Shifnal

1871 Shifnal Shropshire
James Barnsley 67 Head Bricklayer
Ellen Barnsley 64
William Barnsley 42 Image looks like Marr Umn and W Forgeman
John Barnsley 17
Dont understand this census

1861 Peartree Street Rowley Regis
William Barnsley 35 Head Coal Miner B. Shropshire
Caroline Barnsley 22 B. Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Barnsley 2 B. Rowley Regis
Ann Barnsley 2 Mo B. Rowley Regis

1871 Club Buildings
William Westwood 37 Head Chain Maker
Caroline Westwood 32 William Westwood 12
Elizabeth Barnsley 12
Benjamin Westwood 8
Ann Barnsley 10
Matilda Barnsley 7
Ellen Westwood 2 months
All born Rowley Regis
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kdw wrote:
Possibles

SO FAR WE HAVE

Poss Marr

JAMES BARNSLEY

Marriage:
Spouse: ELENOR WARD
Marriage: 24 JUL 1826 Shifnal, Shropshire



1841 Shiffnal Shropshire

Thomas Ward 65 Miner father of ellen
James Barnsley 35 Bricklayer
Helen Barnsley 30
William Barnsley 12
Ann Barnsley 10
Eliza Barnsley 10
All born in County


WILLIAM BARNSLEY
Christening: 18 JAN 1829 Donnington Wood, Shropshire,

father: JAMES BARNSLEY
Mother: ELLEN


1851 Shiffnal Shropshire

James Barnsley 47 Head Bricklayer
Ellen Barnsley 46 Eliza Barnsley 16
Thomas Barnsley 6
Isaac Barnsley 35 Brother
Martha Farnal 22 Visitor
All born Snedshill Shropshire

1861 Shifnal Shropshire

James Barnsley 36 Image says 56 Bricklayer William wedding cert say father bricklayer
Ellen Barnsley 55
Thomas Barnsley 16
John Barnsley 7
All born Shifnal

1871 Shifnal Shropshire

James Barnsley 67 Head Bricklayer
Ellen Barnsley 64
William Barnsley 42 Image looks like Marr Umn and W Forgeman (a brother to james? as our william suppose to be dead)
John Barnsley 17
Dont understand this census


1st Marriage
25 Aug 1856 St John Dudley
William Barnsley - X - 25- bach- miner- Dudley- Father James Barnsley- Bricklayer
Caroline Priest- X 20 - spinster- Dudley- Father Richard Priest miner
Wit -William Jones X / Mary Ann Priest


1861 Peartree Street Rowley Regis

William Barnsley 35 Head Coal Miner B. Shropshire
Caroline Barnsley 22 B. Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Barnsley 2 B. Rowley Regis
Ann Barnsley 2 Mo B. Rowley Regis



2nd Marriage
18 April 1870 St Thomas Dudley
William Westwood- X - 37- Widower- chain maker- Dudley- Father Thomas Westwood (Dec) chain maker
Caroline Barnsley- X 31- widow Dudley- Father Richard Priest- miner
Wit- John Westwood X / Martha Tromans X

1871 Club Buildings

William Westwood 37 Head Chain Maker
Caroline Westwood 32 William Westwood 12
Elizabeth Barnsley 12
Benjamin Westwood 8
Ann Barnsley 10
Matilda Barnsley 7

Ellen Westwood 2 months
All born Rowley Regis



1881 65 Club Building Rowley Regis,

William WESTWOOD 47 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Chain Maker
Caroline WESTWOOD 41 Dudley, Worcester, England Chain Maker
Benjamin WESTWOOD 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Chain Maker
Ellen WESTWOOD 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Sarah WESTWOOD 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Joseph WESTWOOD 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Caroline WESTWOOD 3 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Hannah WESTWOOD 1 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Matilda BARNSLEY Daur In Law 17 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Chain Maker
Samuel WESTWOOD Lodger U26 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Chain Maker



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All seems to fit apart from the 1871 cenus for James and Ellen, William is listed as son.
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kdw wrote:All seems to fit apart from the 1871 cenus for James and Ellen, William is listed as son.



what does image say kdw ?
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