*Arc tbc* -Samson Willetts 1838

suki · Post by **suki** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:48 pm

Have founnd two bap. for Samson one 15/4/1838 Halesowen and one 22/2/1838 St Giles parents Richard and Rosannah Willetts other sibblings bap either Halesowen or RR. Is this the same Sampson !! Did one die.
I hope there aren't two Richard and Rossannah

linell · Post by **linell** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:21 pm

Suki, have you taken these from the IGI? I noticed that the Halesowen one is the only extracted record, the St Giles one is a member submitted, so just someone's take on the event rather than an actual Parish Entry. HTH Linell.

suki · Post by **suki** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:43 pm

Have taken the Halesowen on from igi's
The St Giles one is from transcripts of parish records

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:06 pm

Is it possible the early one is a birth record.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:28 am

have we resolved this yet?
the transcripts are pretty good on the RRegis book

do we need look ups?

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:50 pm

suki wrote:Have founnd two bap. for Samson one 15/4/1838 Halesowen and one 22/2/1838 St Giles parents Richard and Rosannah Willetts other sibblings bap either Halesowen or RR. Is this the same Sampson !! Did one die.
I hope there aren't two Richard and Rossannah

anyone got the Halesowen transcript Cd to just check what fathers occup is for this Halesowen one and where living

The Samson one is nailer Shepherds fold

wonder where they are in 1841

we have the Halesowen bapt but there could be 2 I suppose

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:01 pm

Ok on the 1841 they are at Shepherds fold so I am entering that RR bapt for the Samson on BCC

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:55 pm

Going to check that Halesowen one at the archives

So archiving this pending look up of Halesowen 15 april 1838 bapt for Samson Willetts

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:38 pm

Rite I have done the look ups and it is a weird one this

The St Giles one at RR is the correct one here/based on area living in 1841 ie Shepherds fold

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

now how many rosannah and Richard Willetts in 1838 with son Sampson can there be!
I have checked the Halesowen one and will add details to the notes for that Sampson

but why did they then bapt Samson twice once in 1838 at St Giles
and then again at St Johns Halesowen and the addy for the H'owen one is Blackheath and he is a nailer

is Shepherds fold near Black heath ( w'out me getting the map out)
was he bapt twice?
cant be that they moved as in 1841 he is at Shepherds Fold

15 April 1838 St Johns Halesowen
Richard and Rosannah Willetts
Blackheath nailer

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:51 pm

Northern Lass wrote:Rite I have done the look ups and it is a weird one this

The St Giles one at RR is the correct one here/based on area living in 1841 ie Shepherds fold

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

now how many rosannah and Richard Willetts in 1838 with son Sampson can there be!
I have checked the Halesowen one and will add details to the notes for that Sampson

but why did they then bapt Samson twice once in 1838 at St Giles
and then again at St Johns Halesowen and the addy for the H'owen one is Blackheath and he is a nailer

is Shepherds fold near Black heath ( w'out me getting the map out)
was he bapt twice?
cant be that they moved as in 1841 he is at Shepherds Fold

15 April 1838 St Johns Halesowen
Richard and Rosannah Willetts
Blackheath nailer

I have come across that before with my Clee's in Kidder, could be they didn't like the first christening.

1851. as with parents Richerd and Rosannah, in Rowley Regis.

Samuel Willetts. abt 1832.
David Willetts. abt 1835.
Sampson Willetts. abt 1839.
Elizabeth Willetts. abt 1841.
Sarah Willetts. abt 1843.
Ellen Willetts. abt 1846.
Edward Willetts. abt 1848.

Maths girl · Post by **Maths girl** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:12 pm

I have read somewhere of two different reasons for having a child baptised twice.

1) It seems sickly at birth and they doubt it will live so there is a rushed private one followed by a public one. Sometiems they write Private on the first.
2) They take the child back to their home parish ie where they were born/baptised and have them "done" again there.

Anyone heard of any other reasons?

cid · Post by **cid** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:10 pm

Hi Folks.

I have an aunt born in Shepherds fold in 1915, and according to her baptism cert Shepherds Fold is in Blackheath

suki · Post by **suki** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:53 am

Shepherds Fold is sometimes down as Blackheath in records also later Ross or New Ross. I fined this a bit of a strange as the dates are so close together would have expected them he other way round - some of their other children baptised at Halesowen.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:17 am

I think it is definately the same couple
have added a note to the notes for Samson

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:43 pm

Not sure we can do much more on this one?

So unless otherwise advised will archive

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