WILLIAM ALLEN.

[Northern Lass]

Hi folks, I'm back from my travels In 1841 in Belper the family - if I have the right one, the usual caveat! - is as follows:

Saml Allen 50
John Allen 15
William Allen 12
Samuel Allen 10
Charlotte Allen 8
Eliza Allen 5

could this be Wms grandfather

[Northern Lass]

I have the copies of him on 1851 to 1901 census's.
1851 he his lodging with a Charles Harris and family with a Charles Allen Oldhill, Rowley Regis,
but I dont have him with parents in 1841.

Charles Harris is witness on marriage

25 December 1851 St Thomas Dudley<br>
William Allen- of full age- bach- nailer- Dudley- John Allen- nailer<br>
Mary Ann Tromans- minor- spinster- Dudley- Barnet Tromans-nailer<br>
banns<br>
X both<br>
Wit- X Maria Harris/ X Charles Harris

[Jimmy]

Thanks NL for the look up.

This is all I have,
Submitted.

William Allen.
Christening, 28 JUL 1833, Ault Hucknall, Derby.
Parents:
John Allen.
Ellen.

Which could be this one.

Submitted.
JOHN ALLEN.
ELLEN SADLER.
Marriage, 14 AUG 1826. North Wingfield, Derby,

I havn't done any more on this one for a few years, so I will need to find him in the 1841 census.

[Jimmy]

I have the copies of him on 1851 to 1901 census's.
1851 he his lodging with a Charles Harris and family with a Charles Allen Oldhill, Rowley Regis,
but I dont have him with parents in 1841.

Charles Harris is witness on marriage

25 December 1851 St Thomas Dudley<br>
William Allen- of full age- bach- nailer- Dudley- John Allen- nailer<br>
Mary Ann Tromans- minor- spinster- Dudley- Barnet Tromans-nailer<br>
banns<br>
X both<br>
Wit- X Maria Harris/ X Charles Harris

He is lodging with the witnesses in 1851.

[Northern Lass]

So that all ties in nicely doesnt it with name Ellen and kid called Ellen too.

Do you need any more on this Jimmy or can we archive?

[Jimmy]

If possible I would like to find him in the 1841 census with parents or grandparents,
I have a 1841 copy of census with a John and Ellen living in Derby, both age 45. (can't make out the area)
he is down as a carpenter so I don't know if he is the right one.

[Northern Lass]

If possible I would like to find him in the 1841 census with parents or grandparents,
I have a 1841 copy of census with a John and Ellen living in Derby, both age 45. (can't make out the area)
he is down as a carpenter so I don't know if he is the right one.

do you have parents for this John Allen?
is it a Samuel?

[Jimmy]

I have no idea at the moment.

There is this one,


Submitted.

John Allen.
Christening, About 18 MAY 1794. Belper, , Derby.

Parents:
James Allen.
Rachel.

William had a daughter named Rachel.

[Northern Lass]

Hi Jimmy do you want me to move this to brickwalls, archive or if you are still after a census the look up requests and title it 1841 census
is that the one you are after?

[Jimmy]

Hi NL,

You may as well archive it.