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John Emmanuel Bedale

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Private 198483 John Emmanuel Bedale
Abt 1891 - 12/11/1916 (25)
https://www.tiptonremembers.net/index.p ... n-emmanuel

Dob abt 1891

Baptism -

Parents James William Bedale & Alice Gregory

Parents Marriage??
Poss 1888 Birmingham Warwickshire
James William Bedale
Alice Gregory
Vol 6d Page 186


1891 317 Dudley Port Tipton
Emmanuel Gregory 48 Head Steam Engine Fitter Dudley
Elizabeth Gregory 50 Wife Grocer Wordsley
James William Bedall 24 Son-in-law Wolverhampton
Alice Gregory 24 Daughter Tipton
James Gregory Bedall 2 Grandson Tipton

1901 27 Bloomfield Road, Tipton, Staffs.
James William Bedale (34, Printer Foreman, born Wolverhampton), his wife Alice (34, born Dudley), and their 5 children: James Gregory (12, born Tipton), Emanuel (10, born Tipton), Frederick (8, born Tipton), Elsie (5, born Tipton), and Arthur (2, born Tipton).

1911 42 Waterloo Street, Tipton, Staffs.
James William Bedale (44, Printer Compositor, born Wolverhampton), his wife Alice (44, born Netherton), and 4 of their 5 surviving children of 9: Emanuel (20, Bookbinder, born Tipton), Arthur Joseph (12, born Tipton), Winnifred (8, born Tipton), and Jessie (6, born Tipton).
James Emanuel Bedale emigrated at some stage after 1911 to Canada, as he attested into the 94th Overseas Battalion on 25th November 1915 at Fort William, Ontario.

WW1 Records
Private 198483 John Emmanuel Bedale
Killed in Action on Sunday, 12th November 1916, age 25. Buried in Grave VIII. C. 27. at Warloy-Baillon Communal Cemetery Extension, Somme, France.
46th Bn., Canadian Infantry (Saskatchewan Regt.).
Son of James William and Alice Bedale, of Tipton, Staffs.
Born: Tipton, Enlisted: Fort William, Ontario, Resident: Kakabaka Falls, Ontario.
First landed France & Flanders, post 31st December 1915.
Medal entitlement: British War Medal, Victory Medal.
Soldier's Papers at National Archives survived and transcribed.

Dod 12/11/1916 (25) KIA France

Buried in Grave VIII. C. 27. at Warloy-Baillon Communal Cemetery Extension, Somme, France.

www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/74033/

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/159 ... uel-bedale

Commemorated Not commemorated on any Tipton memorial.

Any other info
Tipton Remembers is sure this is the correct info for John Emmanuel Bedale as all other details correspond
As at attestation he gave his address as Kakabeka Falls, Ontario and occupation as Ranger. His next of kin was given as his father, Mr J W Bedale of 71 Chattaway Street, Birmingham which ties up with his gravestone and census data. Curiously, his date of birth is given as 6th May 1892 when it was actually 1888 - .
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Re: John Emmanuel Bedale

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Re: John Emmanuel Bedale

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Is this the correct Parents for John Emmanuel Bedale ?
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Re: John Emmanuel Bedale

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Birth: BEDALE, EMMANUEL - MMN: GREGORY
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 49
(It just gives Emmanuel - No John is mentioned)

Birth: BEDALE, JAMES GREGORY - MMN: GREGORY
GRO Reference: 1888 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 39
(This is the birth of their first son, but you have it entered as James Gregory with no surname BEDALE entered)

Birth: BEDALE, FREDERICK ROBERT - MMN: GREGORY
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 51

So it looks good to me. I can't find the actual Marriage entry on Ancestry or Find My Past sorry.
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Re: John Emmanuel Bedale

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Thanks BC Wench :thumbup:

Info from Tipton Remembers.
Tipton Remembers is sure this is the correct info for John Emmanuel Bedale as all other details correspond
As at attestation he gave his address as Kakabeka Falls, Ontario and occupation as Ranger. His next of kin was given as his father, Mr J W Bedale of 71 Chattaway Street, Birmingham which ties up with his gravestone and census data. Curiously, his date of birth is given as 6th May 1892 when it was actually 1888.

Going on Birth info BC wench found, Birth info states Emanuel Bedale (and no name John)
Cwwg states John Emmanuel Bedale
I'm going round in circles trying to be sure for bcc :crazy:
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Re: John Emmanuel Bedale

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The 1888 birth date you have got is (John) Emanuel's brother's birth year - James Gregory Bedale.
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Re: John Emmanuel Bedale

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Re: John Emmanuel Bedale

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Thank you to you both. :)
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