Help please Thomas Babbs/Jones

[mjay]

Private 9036 Thomas Jones, served as Private 9036
Thomas Babbs

Abt 17/5/1879 - 7/11/1914 (35)
https://www.tiptonremembers.net/index.p ... homas-9036

Dob 17/5/1879 Bilston,

Baptism -

Parents
Mother Elizabeth ??
Stepfather Thomas Jones

Parents Marriage ??

1881 68 Temple Street, Bilston, Staffs.
Thomas Jones (39, Boat Builder, born Frankton, Shropshire), his wife Elizabeth (34 - age incorrect, born Gnossal), and their 3 children Annie L. (12, born Welshpool), Thomas (2, born Bilston), and Sarah J. (2 months, born Bilston).

1891 3 Dale End, Darlaston, Staffs.
Thomas Jones (49, Boat Builder, born Welshpool), his wife Elizabeth (32, born Gnosall), and their 4 children: Thomas (11, born Bilston), Sarah (9, born Bilston), Elizabeth (4, born Walsall) and John (2, born Great Bridge).

1901 Cannot trace Thomas Jones, but his parents were at:
Toll End Road, Tipton, Staffs.
Thomas Jones (59, Boat Builder, born North Wales), his wife Elizabeth (44, now born Tipton!), and their son John (12, born Tipton).

Marriage 1/10/1910 St Martin Tipton
Staffordshire Tipton St Martin
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 170
Marriage date 01 Oct 1910
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname JONES
Groom age 31
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Miner
Groom abode 55 Bridge Road
Bride forename Annie Elizabeth
Bride surname JONES
Bride age 22
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode 55 Bridge Road
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname JONES
Groom father occupation Boat builder
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname JONES
Bride father occupation Waggoner
Witness 1 Walter THOMAS
Witness 2 Harriet WRIGHT
Notes Groom's father deceased

Thomas Jones (31, Miner, Bachelor) and Annie Elizabeth Jones (22, Spinster), were married on 1st October 1910 at St Martin's Church, Tipton. Their residence at the time of marriage was given as 55 Bridge Road, Tipton. Annie already had a son, James Albert Jones, born on 13th February 1909. It is not known if this was Thomas's son, but James was later recorded as "adopted son", so possibly not.

1911 1 Court 4 House, Harrold Street, Toll End, Tipton, Staffs.
Boarding with Roseanna (46, Charwoman, born Tipton) and Rhoda Cartwright were Thomas Jones (31, Miner - Loader-up underground, born Bilston), his wife Annie (22, born Worcester), and her son James Jones (2, born Wednesbury).

WW1 Records
Private 9036 Thomas Jones, served as Private 9036 Thomas Babbs
Killed in Action on Saturday, 7th November 1914, age 35.
Commemorated on Panel 35 and 37 of Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial, Ieper, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium.
1st Bn., South Staffordshire Regiment. 22nd Brigade of 7th Division.
Husband of Annie Elizabeth Jones, of 1 Court, 1 House, Eagle Street, Toll End, Tipton, Staffs.
Born: Bilston, Enlisted: Wednesbury, Resident: Tipton.
First landed France & Flanders, 4th October 1914.
Medal entitlement: 1914 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal.
Soldier's Papers at National Archives did not survive.
Commemorated here because he appears on a Tipton memorial but served under an Alias.
Commemorated here because he appears on a Tipton memorial.
Link to Commonwealth War Graves Site: www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/925985/

Dod 7/11/1914 (35) KIA Belgium

Burial
Private 9036 Thomas Jones,
Thomas Babbs/Jones has no known grave.

www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/925985/

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/109 ... omas-babbs

Commemorated on Tipton Library Memorial
Commemorated here because he appears on a Tipton memorial but served under an Alias.

Any other info
Private 9036 Thomas Jones, served as Private 9036 Thomas Babbs

Thomas Babbs
[Jones Thomas]
Gender Male
Rank Private
Record Type Military
Death Date 7 Nov 1914
Service Number 9036
Corps, Regiment or Unit S. Staffs Regt.
Title WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description Other Ranks Died Ayland A-Backhouse J
Next of Kin (Name) Relation to Soldier
Thomas Babbs
Annie Elizabeth Jones Babbs 17/6/1889 Widow
James Albert Jones Babbs 13/2/1909 Child
Maria Annie Babbs 23/8/1914 Child

Annie already had a son, James Albert Jones, born on 13th February 1909. It is not known if this was Thomas's son, but James was later recorded as "adopted son", so possibly not.
The first child of Thomas and Annie was Marian Annie, born 23rd August 1914. Thomas's occupation is given as Private in the 3rd South Staffs.

[mjay]

Well I'm completely stumped with this family

Spouse
Annie Elizabeth Jones
Abt ??

Dob abt 1888

Baptism ??

Parents William Jones & ??

Parents Marriage ??

Marriage
Marriage 1/10/1910 St Martin Tipton
Staffordshire Tipton St Martin
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 170
Marriage date 01 Oct 1910
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname JONES
Groom age 31
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Miner
Groom abode 55 Bridge Road
Bride forename Annie Elizabeth
Bride surname JONES
Bride age 22
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode 55 Bridge Road
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname JONES
Groom father occupation Boat builder
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname JONES
Bride father occupation Waggoner
Witness 1 Walter THOMAS
Witness 2 Harriet WRIGHT
Notes Groom's father deceased

Thomas Jones (31, Miner, Bachelor) and Annie Elizabeth Jones (22, Spinster), were married on 1st October 1910 at St Martin's Church, Tipton. Their residence at the time of marriage was given as 55 Bridge Road, Tipton. Annie already had a son, James Albert Jones, born on 13th February 1909. It is not known if this was Thomas's son, but James was later recorded as "adopted son", so possibly not.

1911 1 Court 4 House, Harrold Street, Toll End, Tipton, Staffs.
Boarding with Roseanna (46, Charwoman, born Tipton) and Rhoda Cartwright were Thomas Jones (31, Miner - Loader-up underground, born Bilston), his wife Annie (22, born Worcester), and her son James Jones (2, born Wednesbury).

1914
Thomas Babbs[Jones Thomas]
Gender Male
Rank Private
Record Type Military
Death Date 7 Nov 1914
Service Number 9036
Corps, Regiment or UnitS. Staffs Regt.
Title WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description Other Ranks
Died Ayland A-Backhouse J
Next of Kin (Name)Relation to Soldier
Thomas Babbs
Annie Elizabeth Jones Babbs 17/6/1889 Widow
James Albert Jones Babbs 13/2/1909 Child
Maria Annie Babbs 23/8/1914 Child

1914
Husband of Annie Elizabeth Jones (formerly Babbs), of 1 Court, 1 House Eagle Street, Toll End, Tipton, Staffs.

2nd Marriage (Married 1st husband Thomas's brother)
1921
John Jones
Annie Babbs/Jones

1921

Dod

Burial

Any other info
Annie already had a son, James Albert Jones, born on 13th February 1909. It is not known if this was Thomas's son, but James was later recorded as "adopted son", so possibly not.
The first child of Thomas and Annie was Marian Annie, born 23rd August 1914. Thomas's occupation is given as Private in the 3rd South Staffs.

Thomas's widow, Annie, moved in as a lodger with her brother-in-law, John Jones. Obviously their relationship flourished as they had two children, John William (born 4th September 1917) and Lilian Florence (born 6th August 1920). The couple eventually married in September 1921, and had a further 4 children.

Annie's child
James Albert Jones, born on 13th February 1909.

Annie Jones & Alfred Jones Children
Marian Annie, born 23rd August 1914.

Annie Jones & Thomas Jones Children
John William (born 4th September 1917) and Lilian Florence (born 6th August 1920).

[mjay]

Well I'm still completely stumped/confused with this family

▪︎What surname do I add Thomas under Babbs or Jones

▪︎I can't find spouse Anne Elizabeth's family?