Kabel/Cabel Knowles

[Waltzer7]

My Auntie used to tell me, when I was a child, that Cabel Knowles' mother was an Indian Squaw!

Researching Cable/Kabel Knowles: -

Looking up on GRO: -

Kabel Knowles 1840 M Qtr in Stourbridge Union. Volume 18, Page 497. Mother's maiden name: Homan.

1851 Census: -

John Knowles, age 31, Married, Horse Nail Maker, Wollescote
Meriah, age 32, Wife, Nail Forger, East Indies
Keable, age 11, son, Nail Forger, Wollescote
Joeles (Should be Giles), son, Scholar, Wollescote
William, 6 months, son.

Meriah/Maria was apparently born on 25th April and baptised in Bangalore on 12th May 1819. Parents: William Moobly/Mobberley, serge 14.16.34th Regts and Helen, his wife.

It seems there are errors regarding Kabel/Cable's mother's maiden name? Homan or Mobberley? Was Kabel/Cabel born to a different mother and his siblings born to Maria, nee Mobberley?

[kdwoodie]

Caleb was my GG Grandfather on BCC here https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=680005

John and Maria married 1843 in Oldswinford as far as I know Maria was Caleb's mother, she was born in Bangalore as her father William was in the army.

Maria's parents were William and Eleanor Walker, they were married 7 Nov 1817 in Madras, it was Williams second marriage


1841Waste Bank Oldswinford
William Mobberly 60 Nailer Born in county
Eleanor Mobberly 50 Foreign
Morris Mobberly 20 Foreign Maria on image
Thomas Mobberly 18 Born in County
Edward Mobberly 16 Born in County
Elenor Mobberly 14 Born in County
Joseph Mobberly 8 Born in County
Elijah Mobberly 4 Born in County
Cabel Mobberly 1 Born in County

I've never actually looked for a birth but it could be he was born before marriage ?

This is Caleb and Sarah

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[kdwoodie]

Ordered cert for Kabel

16 Jan 1840 at The Lye Father John Knowles Mother Maria Mobberley Single Woman Nailer

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[Waltzer7]

Thanks Kaye for posting the cert,

I'm now guessing that is where "Homan" came from. Single woman and the written word for woman looks like Homan, which could have been the reason why it was printed as mother's maiden name on GRO by error?

I have the same photo but in black and white.

I have come across William Mobberly's marriage to Ellen Walker (widow), which has taken place at Vellore, Madras on 7th November 1817.

[kdwoodie]

I have all the info just not updated BCC

May I ask where you got the photo from as I had the original from a family album

[Waltzer7]

My late Auntie gave me the photo, which I scanned, and she was actually an older cousin of my Dad's on the Cox side.

[kdwoodie]

Thanks, no problem. Have you ever heard any stories about Rosina who went to America ?

[Waltzer7]

Thanks, no problem. Have you ever heard any stories about Rosina who went to America ?

Not that I recall... Auntie Mary's mother's name was Rose Lavinia.

Cabel probably stuck in my mind because he apparently married an Indian Squaw and because he had an unusual christen name so I thought he may also be foreign. He looked dark skinned on the photo.

I used to love my Auntie telling me stories of our ancestors, Benny Fiddler is another one and he weighed 29 stones! We still have his violin in a case.

[grangers14]

That's really interesting!

[kdwoodie]

Have updated BCC with info i have https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =991370608

[grangers14]

Would you like connects to yourself on any names Waltzer?

[Waltzer7]

Have updated BCC with info i have https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =991370608

I found it strange that Cabel was buried as Caleb as he was baptised Kabel, was Cabel on census records?

[Waltzer7]

Would you like connects to yourself on any names Waltzer?

I'm connected to Edwin Cox and Ann Parish on https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=681581

Edwin Cox's sister Sarah Cox married Cabel Knowles.

Sarah Cox: -
Baptised:-
Name Sarah Cox
Gender Female
Baptism Date 30 Jan 1848
Baptism Place Halesowen,Worcester,England
Father Edwin Cox
Mother Ann
FHL Film Number 886635, 886636, 886638

Marriage 25 Dec 1861: at The Parish Church of Oldswinford: -
Sarah Cox, 18, spinster. Abode: Careless Green. Father: Edwin Cox, Gun Barrel Grinder.
Cabel Knowles, 21, Bachelor. Abode: Careless Green. Father: John Knowles, Nail Maker.
Witness 1: William Cox
Witness 2: Harriet Bloomer.

Buried: 9 Aug 1930 • St Peter's Church, Cradley, Worcester, England
Sarah Knowles, age 85 and was buried in the same grave as her husband, Cabel. Source: Paul Millward, Church Warden of St Peter's Church, Cradley.

[kdwoodie]

Have added details of Sarah to BCC https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =947056271

[grangers14]

Do you want this archiving now?