Completed William Henry Allen

[mjay]

Private 16509 William Henry Allen
Abt 1881??- 26/10/1917 (36)
https://www.tiptonremembers.net/index.p ... liam-henry

Abt 1881 Birmingham ??

Baptism-

Help to find Parents and their marriage please
Charles Allen & Elizabeth ??

Parents Marriage ??

1901 Census ??
Cannot trace.

Marriage 5/8/1910 St Martin Tipton
Staffordshire Tipton
Church name St Martin
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 147
Marriage date 05 Aug 1910
Groom forename William Henry
Groom surname ALLEN
Groom age 29
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Moulder
Groom abode 27 Alexandra Road
Bride forename Mary Ann
Bride surname CARTWRIGHT
Bride age 21
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode 15 Church Yard Road
Groom father forename Charles
Groom father surname ALLEN
Groom father occupation Brass worker
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname CARTWRIGHT
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness 1 Samuel MANSELL
Witness 2 Esther TIMMINS

William Henry Allen
Mary A Cartwright
Registration Year1910
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Dudley
Inferred County Staffordshire
Volume 6c Page 109

William H Allen
Mary A Cartwright
Registration Year 1910
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Dudley
Inferred County Staffordshire
Volume 6c Page 109

1911 ??

WW1 Records
Private 16509 William Henry Allen
Died of Wounds on Friday, 26th October 1917, age 36.
Buried in Grave II. K. 42. at Perth Cemetery (China Wall), Ieper, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium.
1st Bn., South Staffordshire Regiment. 91st Brigade of 7th Division.
Son of Charles and Elizabeth Allen, of 57, Waterloo St., Tipton; husband of Mary Ann Allen, of 57, Waterloo St., Tipton, Staffs.
Born: Tipton, Enlisted: Tipton, Resident: Tipton.
Soldier's Papers at National Archives did not survive.

Dod 26/10/1917 (36) Died of Wounds Belgium

Buried in Grave II. K. 42. at Perth Cemetery (China Wall), Ieper, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium.

www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/102913/

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/11151250/w-h-allen

Commemorated on the Tipton Library Memorial.

Any other info
The 1st South Staffs had 6 Officers and 114 Other Ranks killed on the 26th October, amongst them 2 Tipton men - William Allen and George Bladen
William is buried in Perth Cemetery (China Wall), just over a mile south east of Ypres. George, like most of the South Staffs casualties of that day, has no known grave and is commemorated on the Tyne Cot Memorial.

[mjay]

Private 16509 William Henry Allen
Spouse
Mary Ann Cartwright

Dob 6/2/1889

Baptism -

Parents Wiliam Cartwright & ??

Parents Marriage ??

Marriage 5/8/1910 St Martin Tipton
Staffordshire Tipton
Church name St Martin
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 147
Marriage date 05 Aug 1910
Groom forename William Henry
Groom surname ALLEN
Groom age 29
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Moulder
Groom abode 27 Alexandra Road
Bride forename Mary Ann
Bride surname CARTWRIGHT
Bride age 21
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode15 Church Yard Road
Groom father forename Charles
Groom father surname ALLEN
Groom father occupation Brass worker
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname CARTWRIGHT
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness 1 Samuel MANSELL
Witness 2 Esther TIMMINS

Mary A Cartwright
Registration Year1910
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Dudley
Inferred County Staffordshire
Volume 6c Page 109

1911 ??

WW1 Records
Private 16509 William Henry Allen
Title WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Mary Ann Allen
Gender Female
Birth Date 6 Feb 1889
Residence Place 57 Waterloo St Tipton. Staffs.
Relation to Soldier Widow
Description Other Ranks Died Allen W-Allsoplte G
Next of Kin Relation to Soldier Wm Henry Allen
Mary Ann Allen Widow
William Allen Child

1921 57 Waterloo St Tipton
Mary Ann Allen 32 Yrs 4 Months Head Widowed Newsagent. Own Account Place of work At Home. Born Tipton
William Allen 6 Yrs 5 Months Son Father Dead
William Cartwright 75 Yrs 3 Months Father
Retired Puddler Employer Mason & Co, Iron founders Place of Work Church Lane, Tipton Mary Cartwright 13 Yrs 5 Months Niece
Home Duties Father Dead

1939 57 Waterloo st Tipton
Mary A Allen Female 6/2/1889 Widowed
Shopkeeper NewsAgent on Own Account
William Allen Male 28/12/1914 Iron Moulder
Lily R Yale Female 1/5/1917 Newspaper Deliverer & Unpaid Domestic Duties

Dod 1959 (70)
Mary A Allen
Death Age 70
Birth Date abt 1889
Registration DateJul 1959
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Wednesbury Inferred County Staffordshire
Volume 9b Page 582

Burial -

William Henry Allen & Mary Ann Cartwright
Children
William Allen 28/12/1914 -
Dob 28/12/1914
William Allen
Registration Date1915
Quarter of the YearJan-Feb-Mar
Registration Place Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Mother Cartwright
Volume 6b Page 1898

[mjay]

Help to find both sets of parents & Marriages please

I've Started adding

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =687070107

[mjay]

I've looked again and I still cant find both sets of parents

[kdwoodie]

Freereg
Staffordshire
Place Tipton
St Paul
Parish Register
Register entry number 343
Marriage date 25 Jan 1880
Charles ALLEN 23 bachelor Wire drawer Tipton Charles ALLEN Blacksmith
Elizabeth GROOM 19 spinster Tipton John GROOM Currier
Witness1 William Edward PORTER
Witness2 Alice GORTON
Notes Bride and witness 2 sign by mark

ALLEN, WILLIAM HENRY GROOM
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 208

1891 49 Waterloo Road Tipton
John Groom 58 Head M Miner Born Tipton
Elizabeth Groom 53 Wife M Born Tipton
Mary Groom 18 Daughter S Housemaid Servant Born Tipton
Phoebe Groom 16 Daughter S Helper in Foundry Born Tipton
Joseph Groom 12 Son Scholar Born Tipton
William H Allen 11 Grandson Scholar Born Birmingham
Harriet C Allen 7 Granddaughter Scholar Born Tipton
Ely Andrews 18 Boarder S Miner Born Tipton
John Tayler 25 Visitor S Bucket Maker Born Lye

1901 49 Waterloo Street Tipton
William Mason 32 Head M Iron Works Lab Born Coseley
Head H R Mason 33 Wife Mar Born Tipton
John Mason 9 Son ? Born Tipton
Lily Mason 10 Daughter Born Tipton
Joseph Groom 22 Brother-in-law S Iron Works Labourer Born Tipton
William Allen 21 Nephew S Iron Works Labourer Born BHam
Harriet E Allen 16 Niece Born Tipton

1911 8 Waterloo St, Tipton, Staffs
William Henry Allen 29 Head Married Moulder Born Birmingham
Polly Allen 24 Wife Married Born Tipton (Married Under 1 Year 1 child Living 0 Died)
Glayds May Allen 4/12 Daughter Born Tipton

ALLEN, GLADYS MAY CARTWRIGHT
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 28

Elizabeth Groom here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=681811

I cannot see a birth for Harriet

[peterd]

poss another kid?

ALLEN, ROSANNAH GROOM
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 70

[kdwoodie]

CARTWRIGHT, MARY ANN PRITCHARD
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 56

Already on BCC here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =998948918

William is already on BCC here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... &pid=55232&
randi=999618727

Ages are wrong on BCC for William and Caroline

[mjay]

Thank you

All updated
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =703991795

[mjay]

1901 49 Waterloo Street Tipton
William Mason 32 Head M Iron Works Lab Born Coseley
Head H R Mason 33 Wife Mar Born Tipton
John Mason 9 Son ? Born Tipton
Lily Mason 10 Daughter Born Tipton
Joseph Groom 22 Brother-in-law S Iron Works Labourer Born Tipton
William Allen 21 Nephew S Iron Works Labourer Born BHam
Harriet E Allen 16 Niece Born Tipton

Going by ages of Joseph Groom Brother-in-law
& the Wife highlighted above

I think its
Hannah Groom
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =830382787

Freereg
Staffordshire Tipton St Matthew
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 268
Marriage date 16 Aug 1890
Groom forename William
Groom surname MASON
Groom age 22
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Puddler
Groom abode 9 Walton St
Bride forename Hannah Rose
Bride surname GROOM
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode 49 Waterloo St
Groom father forename Joseph
Groom father surname MASON
Groom father occupation Puddler
Bride father forename John
Bride father surname GROOM
Bride father occupation Miner
Witness1 William GROOM
Witness2 Sarah TOWNSEND
Notes Both witnesses sign by mark

[kdwoodie]

I think you are correct

[mjay]

Thanks Kd

Completed & all added

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[grangers14]

Thank you