Ernest Allen

[mjay]

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Private 11290 Ernest Allen
Abt 1883 - 28/4/1917 (32)
https://www.tiptonremembers.net/index.php/allen-ernest

Dob abt 1883 North Aston, Oxfordshire

Baptism 9/6/1884
Ernest Allen
Baptism Date 9 Jun 1884
Baptism Place Tipton, St Mark, Staffordshire, England
Religion Anglican
Father William Allen
Mother Ann Allen
Page number 155

Parents William Allen & Ann Millard

Parents Marriage 18/10/1874 St Matthew Walsall
William Allen
Ann Millard
Registration Year 1874
Registration QuarterOct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Walsall
Inferred County Staffordshire
Volume 6b Page 1050

Freereg
Staffordshire Walsall
Church name St Matthew
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 82
Marriage date18 Oct 1874
Groom forename William
Groom surname ALLEN
Groom age 25
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Stoker
Groom abode New St
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname MILLARD
Bride age 25
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode New St
Groom father forename John
Groom father surname ALLEN
Groom father occupation Furnace man
Bride father forename Henry
Bride father surname MILLARD
Bride father occupation Green grocer Witness 1Charles STILLARD
Witness 2 Ellen MILLARD
Notes Witness 2 signed by mark

1891: 20 Holland Street, Tipton
William Allen 43 Head Forge Lab
Ann Allen 43 Wife
Lucy A Allen 16 Dau
Ernest Allen 8 Son
Henry Millard 69 Father in Law Living on own means
Lydia Millard 74 Mother in Law

1901 47 Meeting Street, Wednesbury, Staffs.
William Allen (52, Boiler Stoker at Steel Works, born Hill Top, West Bromwich), his wife Ann (52, born Oxfordshire), and their son Ernest (17, Labourer at Gas Tube Works, born Ocker Hill).

1911
Unable to trace. It is possible that Enest was serving in the Army, as his first landing in France on 11th January 1915 suggests that he was probably a member of the Reserves when war broke out.

Marriage 5/8/1912 St James Wednesbury
Marriage of Ernest Allen and Nellie Morgan registered September quarter 1912 at West Bromwich.

Staffordshire Wednesbury
Church name St James
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 262
Marriage date 05 Aug 1912
Groom forename Ernest
Groom surname ALLEN
Groom age 28
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Wheel Smith
Groom abode 2 St. James St.
Bride forename Nellie
Bride surname MORGAN
Bride age 19
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode 2 St. James St.
Groom father forename William
Groom father surname ALLEN
Groom father occupation Stoker
Bride father forename Joseph
Bride father surname MORGAN
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness 1 Sidney JONES
Witness 2 Mary Harriet HOLYHEAD

Two children,
Joseph Ernest on 12th December 1913 Thomas William on 12th November 1917,
6 months after his father's death

WW1 Records
Private 11290 Ernest Allen
Killed in Action on Saturday, 28th April 1917, age 32.
Commemorated on Bay 6 of Arras Memorial, Pas De Calais, France.
2nd Bn., South Staffordshire Regiment. 6th Brigade of 2nd Division.
Son of Mr and Mrs William Allen, of Meeting St., Wednesbury; husband of Nellie Allen, of 6, Hobbin St., Wednesbury, Staffs.
Born: Ocker Hill, Enlisted: Wednesbury, Resident: Unknown.
Soldier's Papers at National Archives did not survive.

Dod 28/4/1917 (32) KIA France

Burial Ernest Allen has no known grave

www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/738458/

Commemorated on Bay 6 of Arras Memorial, Pas De Calais, France.

Not commemorated on any Tipton memorial, but commemorated on the Wednesbury Roll of Honour.

Any other info
62 Other Ranks from the 2nd South Staffs were killed on 28th April, 5 of them from Tipton: Ernest Allen, Robert Jones, Frederick Mantle, William Perks and William Williams. All 5 Tipton men are commemorated on the Arras Memorial.

[mjay]

Spouse Nellie Morgan/Allen

Dob abt 2/2/1894
Dob 2/2/1894 West Bromwich
Nellie Morgan
Registration Date 1894
Quarter of the Year Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Place West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Volume 6b Page 887


Help to find Parents please
Joseph Morgan & ??

Parents Marriage ??

Marriage 5/8/1912 St James Wednesbury
Marriage of Ernest Allen and Nellie Morgan registered September quarter 1912 at West Bromwich.

Staffordshire Wednesbury
Church name St James
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 262
Marriage date 05 Aug 1912
Groom forename Ernest
Groom surname ALLEN
Groom age 28
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Wheel Smith
Groom abode 2 St. James St.
Bride forename Nellie
Bride surname MORGAN
Bride age 19
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode 2 St. James St.
Groom father forename William
Groom father surname ALLEN
Groom father occupation Stoker
Bride father forename Joseph
Bride father surname MORGAN
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness 1 Sidney JONES
Witness 2 Mary Harriet HOLYHEAD

Ernest Allen WW1 Records
Nellie Nicholls
Gender Female
Birth Date 2 Feb 1894
Residence Place Wednesbury, Staffs
Relation to Soldier Widow
Title WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description Other Ranks Died Allen B-Allen J
Next of Kin (Name)
Relation to Soldier Ernest Allen
Nellie Nicholls Widow
Joseph Ernest Allen Child
Thomas William Allen Child

1921 19 Kings Cross, Wednesbury
Mrs Nellie Allen 27 Years 6 Months Head
Joseph Ernest Allen 7 Years 7 Months Son
Thomas William Allen 3 Years 8 Months Son
Frederick Nicholas Allen 6 Months Son
Lucy Morgan 16 Years 4 Months Sister

re-married March quarter 1925 to William A.S. Nicholls

Nellie Allen
Registration Date Jan 1925
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District West Bromwich
Inferred County Staffordshire
Spouse
William A S Nicholls
Volume Number 6b
Page number 1057

1939 28 Coronation Rd Wednesbury
William A S Nicholls Male 1869
Iron Moulder Retired
Nellie Nicholls Female 1894 Unpaid Domestic Duties

[mjay]

Added what i can.
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Help to find Nellie Morgan Parents & their marriage please
Joseph Morgan & ??

[grangers14]

1901. 29, Canal Side, West Bromwich.
Joseph Morgan, head, 30, Boatunloader,
Annie, 34,
Nellie Brockhouse, 7,
Eliza Morgan, daur, 6,
Joseph, son, 4,
Harriet, daur, 1,
All born West Bromwich

1911. 2 Court 2 St James St Wednesbury, Wednesbury
Joseph Morgan, head, 40, Truck unloader, West Bromwich
Annie, wife, 44, married 16, years, 11 children, 9 living, Wednesbury
Jane Brockhouse, daur, 23, Married, 3 children (crossed out)
Nellie Brockhouse, daur,17, Pottery warehouse hand, West Bromwich
Eliza, daur, 16, Pottery wedger, Wednesbury
Joseph, son, 14, Screwer, West Bromwich
Harriet, 11, West Bromwich
Frederick, son, 8, Golds Hill
Sarah, daur, 7, Golds Hill
Thomas, son, 4, Hill Top
Lucy, daur, 6, Wednesbury

Marriage. Freereg.
17th December 1894. St James, Wednesbury.
Joseph Morgan, 24, B, Miner, 33, Dudley Street, Daniel Morgan, Miner
Annie Brockhouse, S, 32, Dudley Street, George Brockhouse, Labourer,
Witnesses, Elizabeth Teague, Benjamin Griffiths

[mjay]

Thanks Jo

Doesnt look like Annie Brockhouse was previously married. Going by her daughters, Jane & Nellie's surnames she unmarried ??

&
1891 20 Meeting St Wednesbury
George Brockhouse 54 Head Filer
Rachel Brockhouse 54 Wife
John Brockhouse 31 Son Labourer
Annie Brockhouse 24 Daughter Potter
Frederick Brockhouse 15 Son Labourer
Martha Brockhouse 13 Daughter
William Brockhouse 11 Son
Jane Elizabeth Brockhouse 3 Granddaughter


1901. 29, Canal Side, West Bromwich.
Joseph Morgan, head, 30, Boatunloader,
Annie, 34,
Nellie Brockhouse, 7,
Eliza Morgan, daur, 6,
Joseph, son, 4,
Harriet, daur, 1,
All born West Bromwich

1911. 2 Court 2 St James St Wednesbury, Wednesbury
Joseph Morgan, head, 40, Truck unloader, West Bromwich
Annie, wife, 44, married 16, years, 11 children, 9 living, Wednesbury
Jane Brockhouse, daur, 23, Married, 3 children (crossed out)
Nellie Brockhouse, daur,17, Pottery warehouse hand, West Bromwich
Eliza, daur, 16, Pottery wedger, Wednesbury
Joseph, son, 14, Screwer, West Bromwich
Harriet, 11, West Bromwich
Frederick, son, 8, Golds Hill
Sarah, daur, 7, Golds Hill
Thomas, son, 4, Hill Top
Lucy, daur, 6, Wednesbury

[mjay]

So is this the wrong Dob details ??

And what do I add her as on bcc
Morgan or Brockhouse ??

Dob
Nellie Morgan
Registration Date 1894
Quarter of the Year Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Place West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Volume 6b Page 887

Also I can't work out how I add her sister Jane Elizabeth Brockhouse so she's doesn't connect to Anne's husband Joseph Morgan ?

[kdwoodie]

I can't see a birth for Nellie that fits

Jane was born Brockhouse but she also married a Brockhouse

Marriages Mar 1908   
BROCKHOUSE Jane Elizabeth  King's N 6c585  
BROCKHOUSE John Albert  King's N 6c585 

[mjay]

Thanks Kd

[grangers14]

The children need adding as Brockhouse, although I can't see a birth for Nellie either.
To add to the tree, you need to add a partner for Annie, as Unknown Unknown, not married and change the order, of partnership, so that needs to be 1 and Joseph 2.
Then you can add the children to Unknown.

[mjay]

Thanks Jo

I've altered what I can

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =560744166

[grangers14]

I will just alter it slightly because the children are not to father unknown.

[grangers14]

I will archive now.
Thank you